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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Jacques M.
France
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 Posted - Aug 28 2014 : 4:12:16 PM
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Yes, it's not the first one I see.
The former had a body which was completely chromed.
I have seen too recently a 2/5cm Sonnar in the same barrel. Not sure the Sonnar was genuine...And a Nikkor 1,4 SC in a Jupiter 8 barrel.
The three-card trick!
Jacques.
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Aug 28 2014 : 4:18:03 PM
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Jacques, but it's not an original right? It's a combination of 2 lenses? How does that even work? How can they be optically compatible? I'm just confused about that..
Cheers,
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 28 2014 : 5:19:48 PM
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Hi Vlad!
The first Industar 26m were made from the aluminium barrel of the Jupiter 8. On the contrary, it is certainly possible to put a Jup8 lens part into an Industar 61 barrel...
But really, I don't see the benefit. It's much better to put a Nikkor 1,4 SC (from a bayonet mount) into a LTM Jup 8 barrel: you can gain 200 €... But surely it's not so evident...
Amitiés.
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 29 2014 : 03:27:11 AM
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I had forgotten: I have a 1939 Sonnar in a Jup 8 of the fifties. It was only necessary to shim it: the mechanisms are perfectly compatible.
It's the same family... |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Aug 29 2014 : 10:35:47 AM
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Interesting. I'm not a lens/optics expert, I collect mostly for mechanical aspect of camera bodies themselves, but for some reason I was under the impression that the optical formulas would be incompatible since each lens uses different number of elements etc.. but I guess it's much simpler between these after all.. thank you for clarifying. But an interestin hybrid, just stood out to me as I've never seen such combination before.
Cheers,
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vorobaz
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Posted - Aug 31 2014 : 06:18:55 AM
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Hi! I have one of the "zebra" export variant Jupiter-8 (m39). And two of them I find on the photo in the internet. All three - 1968 year of production:
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Serial numbers ¹681****:
¹6811677 (from Aidas site)
¹6815656 ( mine)
¹6814371 ( sale on rangefinder.ru http://rangefinder.ru/sale/showproduct.php/product/3519)
  
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 31 2014 : 11:44:11 AM
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Do you think they are home made combinations or original factory lenses?
The JLP notes that the black Jup 8 were made from c.1976, in the anodised version. And yours are from 1968...
It's not the first time I see these curious lenses, but I had not payed attention till now... Thanks!
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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Posted - Aug 31 2014 : 4:54:34 PM
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These were experimental factory made. Very rare
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vorobaz
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Posted - Sep 01 2014 : 12:20:37 AM
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This black ring from my J-8 ¹6815656:
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Sep 01 2014 : 03:05:20 AM
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Thanks, Vorobaz and Luiz.
Is there a reason to make a special batch of these zebra Jup 8?
Jacques. |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Jacques M.
France
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vorobaz
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Posted - Sep 03 2014 : 12:38:37 PM
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Another interesting fact: in 1966 year we can see some J-8 fully blacked (experimental?):
like a fully black Orion-15 from 1966:
 
 
 
 
And serial numbers both it's 661*** 
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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okynek
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vorobaz
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Brian
USA
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Posted - Sep 13 2014 : 8:50:53 PM
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I've made some of these type of hybrids-
Helios-103, LTM RF coupled using a close-focus helical for a Summar;
I-61L/D in Collapsible Contax RF Count, used a mount from a pre-war Sonnar;
5cm F1.5 Contax mt Sonnars in J-3 LTM Mounts;
5cm f2 Contax mt Sonnars in J-8 LTM Mounts.
And- 5-element Schneider Xenar from Karat mount to LTM, used a Canon 50/2.8 LTM focus mount.This lens was loose, found at a camera show for $30. Serial number is from the 40s.
http://www.leicaplace.com/showthread.php?t=153 |
Edited by - Brian on Sep 13 2014 8:54:49 PM |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Sep 14 2014 : 05:15:02 AM
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Hi Brian!
Good to see you back!
Thanks for the details about your work: it explains that we can see hybrids (home or factory made) on eBay.
I hope you are not responsible for all!
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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