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liukai
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sean perry seany65
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Posted - May 20 2024 : 5:58:13 PM
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Hello liukai, thanks for posting this. I've just done a quick search for the f21 "kgb" camera. It's a new one to me. I also found out that its other name is "Ajax 12" and it used 21mm film (which I've never heard of) and gives 18mm x 24mm negatives. Here's a link for anyone who is interested, but who doesn't know much about it:
https://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/camera/f21/index.htm |
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liukai
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Posted - May 20 2024 : 9:29:32 PM
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thank seanperry |
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Detlev Vreisleben Detlev
Germany
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Posted - May 21 2024 : 10:11:18 AM
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Hi, The Soviet secret service NKVD, the predecessor of the KGB, had a small observation camera developed by the OOT (Otdel Operativnoy Techniki) in the 1940s. The first model was the UFA (Universal Foto Apparatus), which was probably the first camera in the world to be equipped with an integrated electric winder in 1945. It is possible that they later switched to a spring motor like the Robot due to battery problems. The subsequent models Ajax 8 (1948), Ajax 9 (1949), Ajax 10 (1950) and Ajax 11 (1951) came closer and closer to the well-known F 21, which was built from 1952 as Ajax 12 until 1994. In contrast to the 1503, the F 21 only has three times: 1/10, 1/30, 1/100 s and B. This development is richly illustrated in “The Secret History of KGB Spy Cameras” by Keith Melton.
![](http://www.ussrphoto.com/resize/resize_image.aspx?ImgWd=800&IptFl=/UserContent2/2152024_Einband KGB.jpg) http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2152024_Einband KGB.jpg
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Detlev Vreisleben Detlev
Germany
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Posted - May 21 2024 : 11:18:16 AM
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The Chinese 1503 In the 80s, the Shanghai factory 832 built a copy of the Russian F 21, but with some modifications, so the time range was extended to ½ to 1/150 s and B, and there were four lenses: 2/28 mm, 2.8/28mm, 4.5/28mm and 5/40mm, all with distance adjustment. Trigger and time setting knob were modified where necessary. Like the F 21, it has a negative format of 18 x 24 mm and can take 14 - 15 shots. 35 mm film is cut to a width of 21 mm using a film cutter and placed in special cassettes that are light-tight and can be changed in daylight.
![](http://www.ussrphoto.com/resize/resize_image.aspx?ImgWd=800&IptFl=/UserContent2/2152024_Ausschnitt1503k.jpg) http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2152024_Ausschnitt1503k.jpg
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Edited by - Detlev on May 21 2024 11:39:03 AM |
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liukai
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Posted - May 21 2024 : 9:46:58 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Detlev
The Chinese 1503 In the 80s, the Shanghai factory 832 built a copy of the Russian F 21, but with some modifications, so the time range was extended to ½ to 1/150 s and B, and there were four lenses: 2/28 mm, 2.8/28mm, 4.5/28mm and 5/40mm, all with distance adjustment. Trigger and time setting knob were modified where necessary. Like the F 21, it has a negative format of 18 x 24 mm and can take 14 - 15 shots. 35 mm film is cut to a width of 21 mm using a film cutter and placed in special cassettes that are light-tight and can be changed in daylight.
![](http://www.ussrphoto.com/resize/resize_image.aspx?ImgWd=800&IptFl=/UserContent2/2152024_Ausschnitt1503k.jpg) http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2152024_Ausschnitt1503k.jpg only three shots
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Detlev Vreisleben Detlev
Germany
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Posted - May 22 2024 : 01:47:22 AM
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I see four lenses Detlev |
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liukai
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Posted - May 22 2024 : 02:38:30 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Detlev
I see four lenses Detlev
The original packaging consists of one camera and three lenses
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Detlev Vreisleben Detlev
Germany
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liukai
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Detlev Vreisleben Detlev
Germany
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Posted - May 24 2024 : 02:09:16 AM
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Which lenses belong to the the normal packaging box? Detlev |
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