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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Vladislav Kern
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David Tomlinson
RCCCUK
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 Posted - Apr 21 2011 : 02:09:53 AM
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I agree with Vlad, it does appear to be of Soviet manufacture, but what is it? I don't think it is a camera, or even a projector or viewer. It certainly has two lenses and maybe it is a stereo device of some kind. There doesn't appear to be anywhere to accommodate a lamp or film of any size. I think it maybe part of something else, with the two lenses producing a small image on the two ground-glass screens (but in the photograph, the lenses are not positioned opposite the screens). Could it be some sort of optometrists apparatus?
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Apr 21 2011 : 6:32:18 PM
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Hi David,
what about those backs? They seem like medium format camera backs... that tends me to believe this is in fact a camera..
Cheers,
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Apr 21 2011 : 9:28:22 PM
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Hey people!
I remember several years ago to have seen such a camera at Sovietskoe Foto magazine This is really a strange 35mm stereo camera
The second picture called my attention once one can clearly see the speed control gears from Lubitel and Smena shutters. The view finder is in the bottom of the camera and is a stereo one to be seen with both eyes through the rear holes near the tripod bushes.(each side with a different one). In this camera the film chamber stays in the middle of the lens and has an odd path with two reversing prosms behind each taking lens. next I will place the controls and the schematicas of this really odd camera. The main idea was avoid transposing slides in the main strip.
If one can see another rarity with the same idea go to http://www.novacon.com.br/odditycameras/cesare.htm
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Apr 21 2011 : 10:13:00 PM
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Great information as always Luiz, thank you! So do you think this is possibly some kind of GOMZ/LOMO prototype? Or a handmade job?
Thanks,
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Apr 21 2011 : 11:41:11 PM
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According to the pictures, the rangefinder double image coincides with the right eye view.
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David Tomlinson
RCCCUK
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Posted - Apr 22 2011 : 02:42:04 AM
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Thank you, Luiz for providing such comprehensive information. It certainly puzzled me. I had no idea that the central compartment was the film chamber. That's why I was so sure that it wasn't a camera. The important question is, 'Did you buy it, Vlad?'.
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Apr 22 2011 : 07:18:59 AM
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Luiz, wow! I am once again impressed and graceful for your detailed explaination and vast knowledge. Thank you it makes it very clear!
David, no unfortunately I did not buy it, it's a bit out of my price range - over $2000 and it only ships via private courier within Russia...
Cheers,
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Apr 22 2011 : 9:12:48 PM
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Thank you very much Vlad Now I post the rangefinder operation
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2242011_redkkaya 5.JPG
This oddball camera deserves a special niche in "cameras"
I shall prepare a complete technical description Where do you suggest to post? Unknown cameras? |
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Apr 23 2011 : 5:52:37 PM
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In order to complement this camera, I regret the fact there is no slide viewer in the lot which I believed to be part of the camera outfit.
Now we figure the picture images on the film. This camera takes 24x24mm pictures n the Colardeau sequence with the pictures turn +90º and -90º around . This trick offers two interesting characteristics: The first and more obvious is the lack of needs in transposing the pictures. the other one much more desirible is that you do not need aligning pictures. THEY WILL BE ALIGNED WHATEVER POSITION THEY SHOULD FALL IN THE VIEWER - A very confortable feature.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2342011_redskayaC.JPG
and this is the schematics of the viewer
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2342011_redskaya7.JPG
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Apr 24 2011 : 8:20:28 PM
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Luiz,
Absolutely fascinating! I still don't quite understand how you derived to the conclusion that this oddball camera uses this lens schematic, or you're talking about an analogous unit? To tell you the truth, I don't have the permission of the seller of this camera to place it into the catalog, that's why I only put it in the forum... I will try to track down seller's email in Novosibirsk, I think my friend in Moscow has it, since I've bought some stuff from her before. After I get the permission we'll create an entry.
Thanks again for all your effort, I'm just plain amazed how you derive so much info just from a picture!  .
Best regards,
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 6:38:42 PM
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Hello Vlad
Getting in touch with your seller please ask him about the viewer!
Best Regards
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 11:17:46 PM
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Sorry Luiz, I still haven't been able to get her email, my friend in Russia has not yet replied... if I get in touch with her I'll ask.
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - May 07 2011 : 8:57:14 PM
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Unfortunately I was unable to get her email address, both my contact in Moscow didn't keep it... If any of the forum members know the email of Molotok seller tessajulou!ia please send me a private message. Thank you!
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Unknown Soviet 
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