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MFN-7 Microscope Camera

Created by RCCCUK on 7/17/2009 5:49:21 AM
Last Edited by RCCCUK on 7/17/2009 6:05:12 AM  
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad

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Posted - Jul 24 2009 :  11:56:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi David, this is a very interesting piece.. I always had a soft spot for technical cameras.. are these the same plates that fit on the Moskva-3? Also any idea on manufacturer? the logo looks like Progress Factory in Leningrad, if judging by the prefix on serial # is 1963 - which makes it LOOMP... (1962 Progress became part of LOOMP and 1965- Lomo) hmm.. any LOOMP markings on the unit besides the logo?

Vlad
David Tomlinson
RCCCUK
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Posted - Jul 27 2009 :  08:26:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Vlad,
Sorry for the delay in replying, but I have just come out of hospital after a shoulder op. As my Soviet cameras are stored in boxes, each weighing 40-50 lbs, I had to persuade my wife to do a bit of lifting for me. I have photographed the MFN-7 plate holder along with the Moscow-3 and Tourist ones. They are all the same height and width, but the MFN-7 one is thicker (6.2 mm). The other two are 3.16 mm. The only clue to the factory, is the convex lens type logo, which I am not familiar with.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2772009_DSfront.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2772009_DSback.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2772009_DSedge.jpg



David

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Vladislav Kern
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Posted - Jul 27 2009 :  09:44:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi David! Thanks so much for making these shots! You really didn't have to bother especially with your surgery. I hope you are doing well.

Quite interesting though! Please do not take them out to check again, but just wanted your opinion - do you think they are interchangable between these cameras? I was always wondering whether there was some kind of common plate standard between Soviet factories that at least the medium on which you take pictures is somewhat interchangable or do you guys think if it - it wasn't on purpose - that it's just a coincidence?

Thanks,
Vlad.
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Posted - Jul 27 2009 :  12:09:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RCCCUK

...The only clue to the factory, is the convex lens type logo, which I am not familiar with.


http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-logos.html#progress
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David Tomlinson
RCCCUK
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Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  03:19:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Moscow-3 and Tourist plate holders are interchangeable, but the one for the MFN-7 has a different edge profile and will not fit the other cameras.

David

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Luiz Paracampo
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Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  09:23:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One can see the logo engraved on the first Soviet Microscope at:
Progress factory -- Opytnii Mechanicheskii Zavod -- (OMZ) 1936 year
http://www.novacon.com.br/lenses08.htm
LP
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Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  12:17:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo

...Opytnii Mechanicheskii Zavod...


Not "Opytniy Mechanicheskiy Zavod" (mechanical (machine) pilot plant), but "Optiko-Mechanicheskiy Zavod" (optical mechanical plant).

Btw., on the page http://www.novacon.com.br/lenses08.htm are too many errors...
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Vladislav Kern
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Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  1:11:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thank you David!

Zoom you do not have the version of the logo that Luiz has on his site on the microscope on your site.. you usually have variations.. does this mean it's not commonly used? I mean the letters around the loupe? Is the loupe itself just an official logo?

Vlad

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Luiz Paracampo
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Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  3:58:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Unhappyly those dada were given by LOMO people and you did not give the corrections.
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Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  4:44:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vlad

Zoom you do not have the version of the logo that Luiz has on his site on the microscope on your site.. you usually have variations.. does this mean it's not commonly used? I mean the letters around the loupe? Is the loupe itself just an official logo?


Please see the note #1 on the page http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-logos.html#n1
Then, strongly said, a "sign" is not a "logo"... This page describes a signs (a brands -- a stigmas). 'Understanding' a logos are simply and not interesting at all.

quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo

Zoom
Unhappily those data were given by LOMO people...


I never heard that the "Progress" was a test plant. Before 1936 year it produced a detonating fuses.

quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
... and you did not give the corrections.


I don't undersatand what you mean...

Edited by - Zoom on Jul 28 2009 5:37:38 PM
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Vladislav Kern
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Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  5:49:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Zoom, Oh ok, I see that you just list the basic "shapes" used in logos basically and not all variations of them. Thanks for the explanation!

Vlad.
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