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Jacques M.
France
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jed
France
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My Collection
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 Posted - Jan 02 2010 : 10:44:11 AM
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Hats off !
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
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Posted - Jan 02 2010 : 12:45:05 PM
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wowwww!!!!
I NEED the same ! |
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Jacques M.
France
2580 Posts |
Posted - Jan 06 2010 : 07:35:08 AM
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Just a word more about this camera: the seller told he had bought it in Italy in 1984. So, it would have been made before.
It would be interesting to know how many were made and by whom. Of course impossible.
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Aug 22 2016 : 4:02:20 PM
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Hmmmm, what is original, what is not original ?
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Jacques M.
France
2580 Posts |
Posted - Aug 24 2016 : 05:12:40 AM
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The mechanism and the optics are original, of course, and work perfectly.
But I don't know where the winder comes from. Not made by Fed: it would be known. So, by whom? |
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1981 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Aug 24 2016 : 9:21:15 PM
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Elementary my dear Jacques!
The original FED from Karkov are overhauled By KMZ where they reengraved (or made) a new câmera top and put a complete new film advance system. Observe they didn't forget to reverse the thread of the film spool holder due the new coupling of film advence force.
These câmeras came from a period pre-FED/KMZ as an exercice towards future production. Observe the TOMB!
Regards LP |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 08:42:16 AM
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Dear Holmes!
You think that KMZ made the job as an exercise?
After all why not... I had noted the "tomb", but I just thought it was the job of a faker.
Your supposition makes sense, of course. That rapid winder is a delicate work and cannot be done on the corner of a table... But if we could have proofs...
And what about the hammer and sickle, which are rather Arsenal's symbols?
Thanks! Watson.  |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4247 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 09:49:17 AM
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My fellow sleuths, 
I heard a rumor that these were made in Poland in 1990s by a very skilled fantasy camera artist, possibly the same one who had made the Stemar copy FED stereo lenses.
I am not sure about the 1980s information in this thread earlier
Best regards,
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 10:10:26 AM
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Yes Vlad; the Polish track was what I had in head too.
So maybe Alfa could investigate? 
Perhaps the question remains open about the complexity of this winder which cannot be made as easily as a Stemar copy...
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Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 1:04:11 PM
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Hmmmm, there is nothing to investigate. I know the guys. They are much older than me.
I doubt they would want to answer my questions regarding this.
I can confirm some rare Leica items were made by them.
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 2:35:37 PM
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Thanks Alfa.
I can understand for some easy works: re-engraving or even Leica like Stemars.
But for a rapid winder? Unless some original parts, coming from elsewhere, were used? Certainly, it needs professional tools and plans.
I only put questions...
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Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Aug 26 2016 : 04:03:03 AM
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Jacques, it was not done on the corner of a table. They were professionals. They were able to "produce" Leica 250 from regular Leica. It was not possible to recognize if it is fake or not. It was possible because before II WW capitalistic Poland had technical cultur as high as in Germany. So "our friends" had specialsts from whom they could learn.
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 26 2016 : 08:38:31 AM
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Thanks for your confirmation, alfa. |
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Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Aug 26 2016 : 4:16:08 PM
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Welcome Jacques.
But of course I cannot confirm they did FED-Stemar or FED Sport. I only can say - "They were able".
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