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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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 Posted - Apr 28 2015 : 5:57:40 PM
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A sure proposal that this is a post war modification, (and a recent one!)is the use of alluminum in the knob manufcture.
This was not a common practice in pre-war days, Commonly they use nickeled or chromed brass.
Allluminum usage was a prement war need and câmeras were largely made using such materials after the war.
Regards
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Miguel Curado
mtcurado
Portugal
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Posted - Apr 28 2015 : 6:12:06 PM
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These Sports modified with a re-winder knob seem to be pretty common, and each one that I've seen had different details. So probably all non factory, but with varying degrees of sophistication. The camera for sale on Taobao.com seems to be so far the best engineered, although it was impossible to see the interior.
I found another modified Sport in the Ukraine, in this case we can see the modified interior, still not as well made as the Taobao Sport.
See:
http://zp-fotomaster.narod.ru/_rem/sport.html
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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Miguel Curado
mtcurado
Portugal
19 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Apr 29 2015 : 09:40:43 AM
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We need a "Like" button in the forum 
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Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
A gift from my assistant Sergio Murilo Rodrigues de Oliveira
a hand drawn Sport with Corel backgound
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Pierre Tizien
Moxies
France
183 Posts
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Posted - May 02 2015 : 12:08:01 PM
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Recently acquired a pré-brussel Mir-1
And a tank lens (TPN1-22-11) 150mm/1.5 (Helios-52 without diaphragm for nightvision)
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - May 03 2015 : 08:43:56 AM
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Hi Martti,
very nice find. Could you please post the photo of the camera, where I can see the serial number on it?
Thanks,
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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Posted - May 05 2015 : 9:25:07 PM
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Phantastic this "Eksponometr"!
A perfect reproduction of the German Tempi-Phot
proving once again the German-Russian cooperation from the
Rapallo Treat!
Although the scale in H&D (English Standard)
Regards
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
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Posted - May 06 2015 : 04:16:07 AM
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Luiz thanks!
The link to the G.Abramov,s website turns my light meter from the GOI, because there is no the logo of the plant and the rooms !? |
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - May 06 2015 : 2:42:25 PM
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Thank you, Martti. My congratulations once more.
The golden color seems a little strange for me. Do you have any explanation for this?
Regards, Alexander |
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
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Posted - May 07 2015 : 04:43:32 AM
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I dont have a good digital camera and it was difficul to make a good picture. Golden color is good. And I am second owner of the camera, guy found it in here home and it was his grandfathers!
Another find
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/752015_smena800.jpg
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Miguel Curado
mtcurado
Portugal
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Posted - May 08 2015 : 11:20:01 AM
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Victory day, May 9, is here! Significantly it is also Europe day!
In this spirit I hope you will be lenient with me if I bring into the celebrations a German that just arrived here in Lisbon.
You can see the Jena girl below with her cousin from Leningrad.
Their curves display the co-operation spirit of the the 1930s :)
The Zeiss lens is f2.8, while the Gomz glass is f3.5, with filter threads of 25 and 24 mm respectively. Early production versions os the Gomz lens seem to have closed to f22 like the Zeiss, but mine only goes to f16.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/852015_MC8_5218.JPG
Since I went to the "Sport" shelf, I took also a couple of shots of two Industar 10 lenses together.
You can see them side by side and the Komz version mounted on the Sport. It lacks a locking device, but can be mounted in only a specific angle and is held just by friction.
Aperture is adjusted by the main ring and focus works perfectly using the lever.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/852015_MC8_5223_r.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/852015_MC8_5228.JPG
Komz on Gomz:
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/852015_MC8_5251.JPG
С Днем Победы!
Happy Europe Day!
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Edited by - mtcurado on May 08 2015 11:33:12 AM |
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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Posted - May 08 2015 : 6:44:40 PM
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Of course the Sport has a Strong Contax I look up to the name written with the same font design as Contax.... the vertical travelling metal shutter.... the lens infinity lock....
Regards
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - May 08 2015 : 11:24:09 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
Of course the Sport has a Strong Contax I look up to the name written with the same font design as Contax.... the vertical travelling metal shutter.... the lens infinity lock....
Louis,
don't you accidentally confused it with Exakta? May be the same font design as by Contax, but the rest...
P.S. I suggest to move this Sport discussion to the own thread.
Regards, Alexander |
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1871 Posts
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1871 Posts
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - May 10 2015 : 08:13:23 AM
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Luiz,
OK, I agree with you about the lens, it seems really to be similar, but the lens-lock and the vertical travelling metal shutter are almost 100% Exakta.
Regards, Alexander |
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Miguel Curado
mtcurado
Portugal
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Posted - May 10 2015 : 09:30:19 AM
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The external lock has a Ihagee look, but it is an infinity lock.
The lens lock is actually a rather original system hidden inside the lens.
When one looks at the back of the lens, Alexander's observation makes all sense, although there is no pin as in the Exakta.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1052015_MC8_4968.jpg
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Originally posted by AlexanderK
Luiz,
OK, I agree with you about the lens, it seems really to be similar, but the lens-lock and the vertical travelling metal shutter are almost 100% Exakta.
Regards, Alexander
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Edited by - mtcurado on May 10 2015 09:31:17 AM |
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Miguel Curado
mtcurado
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1871 Posts
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DcAnalogue
Italy
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Jacques M.
France
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Jacques M.
France
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altix
Ukraine
152 Posts |
Posted - May 19 2015 : 2:58:32 PM
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Congratulations Jacques!
great find indeed! Never saw this lens in LTM before. No doubt it is genuine.
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DcAnalogue
Italy
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
248 Posts |
Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:40:24 PM
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Jacques!
My sincere congratulations !!! |
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
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Lenny
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 02:52:15 AM
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Originally posted by Jacques M.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1952015_DSCF2155.JPG
Hi Jacques,
I like these pictures with the same model for comparisons sake. Must not be consecutive numbers because these pictures really make it easy to find differences. What can't be seen on this picture are the shutter-knobs. It's interesting that they have a different surface,
How long do you have #06337 now as your guest, I see you didn't clean it much, there is still some dirt under the shoe. Maybe now is a good time to remove both shoes to clean it and to check if the stamped signs under the shoes are different. I guess they are different.
Wish you luck to find a #06336 or #06339 now.
Good Times
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Pierre Tizien
Moxies
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 05:07:22 AM
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Thanks, altix and Alexey!
The lightmeter you show is a Fed? Or by whom was it made?
Lenny, I don't understand the general tone of your message. You think that one of the two 1a-s is not original? I have owned the s/n 06337 (the dirty one!) since may 2011.
Jacques.
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Lenny
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 08:12:12 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jacques M.
I don't understand the general tone of your message. You think that one of the two 1a-s is not original? I have owned the s/n 06337 (the dirty one!) since may 2011.
No Jacques, I didn't say that they are fakes. I like these pictures for comparisons. Like the following picture. The one without serial should be around #458484. Easy to see the differences on the "Z" and the KMZ-logo.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2052015_Zorki-1 458484 top.JPG
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 08:29:55 AM
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Jacques hello!
I showed the original light meter FED! In the light meter is not a logo, because it is a prototype of the factory. Such was done 10-15 pieces. They did not go into production. On the last photo you can see a comparison with FED-4. |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 2:53:45 PM
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Dear friends and camera collectors!
Let's discuss all these very interesting themes in separate threads. As you see, here are parallel discussed different cameras and accessories and it is almost impossible to split them from each other. We have a forum, but not only one thread (already 12 pages) to discuss all that we have to discuss.
This is my opinion, but I hope to be heard.
Regards, Alexander |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 3:12:52 PM
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I agree with Alexander, create a new thread if you find something interesting worth discussion, there's so many cool things being posted here and it's hard to address anything specific because it's all mixed in. But I have to admit it is nice to open this thread every time and see Alain's post on top.
Cheers,
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 3:13:11 PM
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Guido Studer
Guido
Switzerland
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 4:15:49 PM
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Hello Vlad
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Originally posted by Vlad
Maybe I should lock this thread , what do you think?
It's exactly what I think. Sure it's a very interesting thread but it's too hard to find a specific topic in such a monster thread.
Only my two cents ...
Best wishes - Guido
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 4:30:18 PM
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You can do what you want or like! But if our communication to someone interferes, why then do we need here?
I propose to make a separate post "Me and Alexander forever!"
Super? And no one will disturb you! |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 4:38:01 PM
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Hi Vlad and friends,
I already told Vlad directly what I think.
And I completely share Alexander's opinion.
We cannot limit our discussions on the main topic "just arrived " (at home) and it's really a problem.
I regret that some important subjects (for example, lately, about the Sport)cannot be really visible. And the last one about the prototype of Fed lightmeter should deserve a thread in itself, by its novelty.
So, Vlad,sure you should close this thread now. But let us just two or three weeks more, please! Who knows...
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 6:01:12 PM
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Jacques, I am not locking this thread yet, I would like for people to voluntarily create new threads themselves.
LOL Alexey! , you post so much amazing stuff it really deserves a thread of its own.. I would like to discuss this FED light meter but there is so much disorganization in this thread it's really hard to do so... I would love to catalog all this stuff.. I really need to set aside some time to take items from here and put them into wiki if the original posters don't mind.
Thanks,
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Miguel Curado
mtcurado
Portugal
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Posted - May 27 2015 : 7:55:00 PM
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Got mail from Leningrad!
This package arrived today, straight from the home of Gomz.
Sport Nr 11755, a rather late vintage.
Fully working, but needing some cosmetic touch-ups.
A few weird things, though:
- The Gomz logo is upside-down!!! Why would someone in Russia do that?
(I've seen all kind of weird angles, but upside-down is too much!);
- "cnopm" is written in a yellowish paint. Maybe just "aged" white?
- The lens has no Gomz name nor logo.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2752015_MC8_5488 small.JPG
фотоаппарат спорт nº 11755
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1871 Posts
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Posted - May 29 2015 : 6:01:08 PM
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Great Marcelo Torres
Industar 10
Problem solved!
go to page
http://ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1466&whichpage=5
Martti Muda Posted - Nov 26 2011 : 3:44:58 PM Gear mount
and see the use of the geared lens!
My best Regards
LP
Note: your pentagonal GOMZ Sport scutcheon is upside down. |
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Pierre Tizien
Moxies
France
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Posted - May 30 2015 : 03:22:16 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by mtcurado
Got mail from Leningrad!
This package arrived today, straight from the home of Gomz.
Sport Nr 11755, a rather late vintage.
Fully working, but needing some cosmetic touch-ups.
A few weird things, though:
- The Gomz logo is upside-down!!! Why would someone in Russia do that?
(I've seen all kind of weird angles, but upside-down is too much!);
- "cnopm" is written in a yellowish paint. Maybe just "aged" white?
- The lens has no Gomz name nor logo.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2752015_MC8_5488 small.JPG
фотоаппарат спорт nº 11755
MT
Also got this lens without GOMZ logo (and without the camera, but that's another story )
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Posted - May 30 2015 : 04:12:34 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by mtcurado
This package arrived today, straight from the home of Gomz.
Sport Nr 11755.
A few weird things, though:
- The Gomz logo is upside-down!!! Why would someone in Russia do that?
Same as Zoom recently told us, VTSVS is read clockwise, but why would Russians start at 8 o'clock. If the VTSVS star is the russian empire they started in Ukraine.
Interesting that GOMZ are still selling cameras from 1939. |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
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Posted - May 30 2015 : 04:28:09 AM
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Originally posted by Lenny
Interesting that GOMZ are still selling cameras from 1939.
Lenny,
GOMZ does not sell any more cameras from 1939! With "home of GOMZ" means Miguel Leningrad, but not the GOMZ-factory.
Regards, Alexander |
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Lenny
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Posted - May 30 2015 : 06:11:47 AM
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| Alexander, I thought about that, but Miguel said Leningrad first and then added the "home of GOMZ" which also means the house of GOMZ. If I say "I'm home" I don't mean that I'm in my city, then I mean that I'm in my house. So to me Miguel said directly from GOMZ. Don't know if he really meant that, that's why I said it's interesting, I don't want to ask about his sources. |
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Miguel Curado
mtcurado
Portugal
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Posted - May 30 2015 : 06:16:39 AM
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I had to clean the Industar 10 on the "Sport", so you can see the lens interior and the diaphragm mechanism.
About the Gomz name / logo on Industar 10:
- till about nr. 3000: word GOMZ
- about 3000 to 13000: nothing
- about 13000 to 19000: GOMZ prism logo, but these lenses are slightly different, as the aperture ring is an inner ring, much less practical to use.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/3052015_MC8_5530 small.jpg
Gomz Sport Industar 10: diaphragm mechanism
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/3052015_MC8_5521 small.jpg
Gomz Sport Industar 10: front element, takes a 24mmx0,5 filter inside or a snap-on 27mm filter outside.
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Pierre Tizien
Moxies
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Posted - May 30 2015 : 06:30:54 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by mtcurado
I had to clean the Industar 10 on the "Sport", so you can see the lens interior and the diaphragm mechanism.
About the Gomz name / logo on Industar 10:
- till about nr. 3000: word GOMZ
- about 3000 to 13000: nothing
- about 13000 to 19000: GOMZ prism logo, but these lenses are slightly different, as the aperture ring is an inner ring, much less practical to use.
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