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Jacques M.
France
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 Posted - Apr 05 2016 : 11:42:18 AM
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Congrats, Reinhart, and thanks for the passport, always very useful for these cameras.
But I read 1949 for the date, no? It should be amazing for a Fed NKVD (probably) made in 1940
Amitiés à toi. |
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xya
France
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Lenny
496 Posts |
Posted - Apr 05 2016 : 3:34:39 PM
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The line above the date means the lens?
That would be quite strange to have the lens before the date with the first 2 digits missing and then after the date the body with complete serial.
However, congratulations, very nice Fed.
Everyone started with the first camera, hahaha, enjoy collecting. |
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xya
France
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 02:59:33 AM
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Yes, Lenny, this passport is a bit strange for a prewar Fed.
It's the first time I see a price, and thsre is no address of factory, for example.
Would it be a bill rather than a passport?
Anyway, it would be useful to have a translation of this paper. If somebody could... Thanks!
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Edited by - Jacques M. on Apr 06 2016 03:27:37 AM |
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Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 03:46:17 AM
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From this passport i can see the camera was bought in Moskow in 1942 in Московское управление торговли культтоварами.
There are signs of inspector and of consignor. The paper is rather something like good issue from shop.
Such goods as FED was not on free market. There was no free market in USSR and distribution of such important goods like FEDs was controlled by state administration.
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Lenny
496 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 03:55:00 AM
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Maybe this is from a workshop. This lens was calibrated to the camera body. No other stamp was made on the lens, so you keep this receipt to document that calibration was made.
To me, it was in 1940, the year when this body should be produced. Maybe a replacement for a faulty body. Who knows, translation is needed.
This would explain why only the last 4 digits of the lens were written on the receipt. If this camera/lens combination would be original and new, the lens should have a much higher serial number. Could be, this is the lens the previous owner bought new and after his new camera body got faulty he got a replacement camera body calibrated to his old lens. |
Edited by - Lenny on Apr 06 2016 04:28:47 AM |
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Alfa2
Poland
349 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 06:01:42 AM
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I could read almost all words. I cannot read the first word covered by ink. Second word coverd by ink is подробное which means "detailed".
In title is written that this is receipt from special shop number 18 which is placed in Moscow in Московское управление торговли культтоварами. I can see number of camera but I don't see last 3 digits of the lens here.
There is signature of director of the shop too below signatures of inspector and of consignor. There is a price given in digits and in words.
Below there is empty fields to put new price and signs. |
Edited by - Alfa2 on Apr 07 2016 07:14:03 AM |
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xya
France
141 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 06:30:20 AM
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the seller, who is a russian from moscow, told me that this is a receipt from a commission shop (which is a second hand shop). they were quite common in russia and they still are. in those days it was mandatory to make any second hand sale via a commission shop.
www.a7camera.com www.120folder.com www.instantphoto.eu |
Edited by - xya on Apr 06 2016 06:33:40 AM |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 06:55:19 AM
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So, it was sold in 1942 as a second hand camera.
The lens can have been changed, of course, as Lenny says: we don't have the original passport. But it can be original too: the lens has often a higher s/n than the body, but not always. |
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Alfa2
Poland
349 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 07:31:44 AM
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Great so it is solved.
I had problems with word комиссионный. It could come from second hand shop or from committee.
But I still don't undestand line with year 1942 and with the first word covered by ink.
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 10:31:41 AM
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| It says "the date of acceptance for commission" |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 10:35:03 AM
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| The line after the date says "Detailed name and description of item" |
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Alfa2
Poland
349 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 11:08:24 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
It says "the date of acceptance for commission"
Thanks Vlad, this was the line I could not understand because of ink and 3rd word which half of it disappiered.
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Lenny
496 Posts |
Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 11:49:36 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
The line after the date says "Detailed name and description of item"
What about the line above the date with the partial lens serial? |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Apr 06 2016 : 11:56:19 AM
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| "Receipt Stub Number 5489" |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
My Collection
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xya
France
141 Posts |
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts |
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Apr 18 2016 : 10:46:57 PM
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Yes, the plate is glass, or at least it should be.
Best regards,
Juhani |
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marcolin
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 22 2016 : 4:42:52 PM
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Jacques, they really look nice :-)
Some of my new findings:
A Horizont with red label and some differences to normal ones.
First, the digits on the frame counter are bigger:
Second, there is a fixing screw for the viewfinder:
At least it comes with both filters and bakelite grip:
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Next is an I-50 enlarger lens, looks nice:
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And this fine Zorki Stereo Set with enlarger mask, viewer and box:
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 09:46:01 AM
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Nice stereo set, Ulrich! Mine is not complete: I miss the mask.
Here, another Fed. An early 1a, the # 1453 in fact, with a correct "1 turn" lens.
Compared to my other later 1a-s, this one has a different vulcanite and an assembling a bit uneven. That "smells the beginning". Happy to get it!
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2962016_DSCF2466.JPG
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 3:58:51 PM
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Jacques,
wow, what a nice FED! I always wanted to have one with such a low number :-) But they are hard to find...
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
My Collection
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Jacques M.
France
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Robert Vonk
Fotohuis
Netherlands
100 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Sep 03 2016 : 3:36:53 PM
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Arrived a few weeks ago just before my holidays. A direct parcel from Ukraine with:
An Universal VF for a client.
A J-9 for Kiev/Contax 1961 for US$ 25.
A J-12 for Kiev/Contax 1984 for free.
Together with my Kiev-4AM and the J-8M a good combination. A VF-1 I have already so a good combi with that Jupiter-12 F/2,8-35mm lens.
I will develop the first film with these new optics, a Bergger BRF400 plus (OrWo Filmotec N74+ ) in Pyrocat-HDC soon.
Robert
"De enige beperking in je fotografie ben je zelf"
http://gallery.fotohuisrovo.nl/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotohuisrovo/ |
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Sep 03 2016 : 4:05:58 PM
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Originally posted by cedricfan
Smena-4 #002847 (PK2230 with lever)
Please see "rivets" in the name tag.
Unused, from a local camerashop inventory :)
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/372016_smena4.jpg
Best regards,
Juhani
The best congratulations, my friend!!!
I would be very happy to have such a sample in my collection, indeed!
Best regards,
Aidas |
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Pierre Tizien
Moxies
France
183 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 5:04:31 PM
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I have received today this Lenar 40-162/3.8, a LOMO zoom cine lens, quite impressiv, results are not bad at all for a 1970's zoom lens!
The lens adapted on my Sony A7
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Edited by - Moxies on Sep 16 2016 5:08:12 PM |
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Trazin
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
248 Posts |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Sep 24 2016 : 3:07:44 PM
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One of the very rare Jena Contax with the double numbering: Jena and Kiev. Thanks, Alexey! And hats off! 
A very interesting detail: the accessory shoe is on the Dresden side: rounded and not square, like on Jena ones. But others share this same feature.
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
248 Posts |
Posted - Sep 24 2016 : 3:26:12 PM
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| Jacques thank you! I specifically did not comments, but you coped just fine !!! Jacques Bravo !!! |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
My Collection
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 8:30:44 PM
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Alexander - wow! FS-2 very cool! And a "red" C-112! There's supposedly a KMZ version as well.
Congratulations!
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Oct 26 2016 : 2:59:28 PM
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A FS-2... The dream of a collector!
Bravo, Alexander! 
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2016 : 12:01:46 PM
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Bravo, Fred!
Nice lens, I have such one with Nr. 000137.
Regards, Alexander |
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2016 : 12:16:12 PM
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Hi Alexander
Does yours have Zeiss serial number on rear glass element?
Fred |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2016 : 12:42:33 PM
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Hi Fred,
no, also no number.
Regards, Alexander |
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2016 : 1:26:12 PM
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Thank you Alexander
I bought it in Vienna, Westlicht auction last month..
Best regards
Fred |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
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Pierre Tizien
Moxies
France
183 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Dec 18 2016 : 4:53:03 PM
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| Cool! |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Jan 29 2017 : 10:58:28 AM
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It's curious that 1948 BK lenses don't have a Zeiss number at the rear... I have 1951/52 Jup 12 which have this number. Perhaps because they are LTM??
A 47 Kiev here, s/n 47168, with a 2/5cm Sonnar and a beautiful pigskin bag:
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2912017_1.jpg
It is on the Jena side, like the early s/n 47058 on Sasaki's book.
But impossible to find this book. If you have one which is read, or if you can lend me yours.... Thanks if you can share.
Amitiés. Jacques.
(photo from the seller)
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Edited by - Jacques M. on Jan 29 2017 11:00:49 AM |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Feb 06 2017 : 2:22:12 PM
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Jena front, Jena bayonet. 1947 serial number. Dresden rangefinder, shutters and mechanism after demontage. Original bag.
Nobody concerning the Sasaki?
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Edited by - Jacques M. on Feb 06 2017 2:46:47 PM |
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just arrived in my collection
