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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Jul 12 2011 : 01:25:51 AM
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Hello Fred, YES, the "Moment" cameras have the only serial number on the lens.
Regards, Alexander |
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts |
Posted - Jul 12 2011 : 04:03:15 AM
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Hello Alex
Thank you for information... I have been searching for so long time to find a second number on my bodies..... |
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Jacques M.
France
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Jul 17 2011 : 09:07:39 AM
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Bravo, Jacques rather rare camera. I found Kiev-III from 1948 some time ago. Perhaps they have much in common.

Regards, Alexander |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Jul 17 2011 : 09:29:48 AM
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Yours is much rarer, Alexander. It has an "A" serial number?
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Jacques M.
France
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Jacek Omega
France
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Aug 09 2011 : 03:45:08 AM
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Labo is nice, I hope I will get it somewhere... |
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Ulrich W. uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Aug 27 2011 : 4:33:46 PM
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Another KIEV II from 1949. It comes with a collapsible Zorki ZK. There are some interesting details, Focus wheel like a Contax (with groove), rewind knob with 4 instead of 3 milled rows, but no more flatened "3" on focus helix and film reminder wheel (see pictures).
The collapsible Zorki has no serial numer inside (as the Sonnars) but it has an hand engraved number inside, the number is 197. So maybe this was the time when they went from Sonnars to self made Zorki lenses?
Another interesting thing is that the shutter has a hand engraved number too inside. It looks similar to the hand engraved number on my very early Kiev II from 1950 and the serials are only 2400 numbers different.
Does anybody know if there was a time when the shutters were numbered by hand? My first thought when I saw this number on the 1950 Kiev was that it was later made. But now when I see a similar engraved number on the 1949 Kiev I think this could be factory made.





Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W. uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Aug 27 2011 : 4:35:03 PM
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Alexander,
a great KIEV III! Specially the lens with it's serial number...
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Aug 28 2011 : 02:16:01 AM
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Ulrich,
very interesting information. I have also a Kiev-II from 1949 with a collapsible Zorki ZK, BUT the lens has s/n 4900415 and DOES NOT have any hand engraved number inside. The Soviets had to register all separate parts for the new Kiev-Contax cameras (and for another cameras as well ) and it could be possible, that since some time they started to register these lens-parts for some internal use too.
Regards, Alexander |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Aug 28 2011 : 03:46:39 AM
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Very interesting, Ulrich! Do you have a picture of the hand engraved number near the shutter? It seems I have seen something similar on one of my 1950 Kiev II, but I don't remember exactly where it was...
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Ulrich W. uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Aug 28 2011 : 04:23:29 AM
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Jacques,
I did not make a picture of the engraved serial number of the 1949 Kiev but one of the 1950 one. The 1949 serial engraving style looks similar. To see that number you have to disassemble the camera partly (take off the top).

Ulrich
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Edited by - uwittehh on Aug 28 2011 04:25:33 AM |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Aug 28 2011 : 3:44:44 PM
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Thanks, Ulrich. Soon I will check on one of my early Kievs.
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts My Collection
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Sep 02 2011 : 11:04:40 AM
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Fine, Juhani! With a hole in the press film, I suppose?
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Sep 04 2011 : 06:15:56 AM
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Yes!
Best regards, Juhani |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 2:53:39 PM
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Here are the new in my collection "7-eyes" LOMO-twins: Sokol-automat and its export-"brother" Aurora-automat.

Regards, Alexander |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Sep 26 2011 : 06:40:20 AM
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Not yet received, but bought some days ago: as it seems a Fed 1a reingraved Leica with a one turn lens (reingraved Elmar). It can be an interesting camera or a pure fake! I will tell you when received.
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Aidas Pikiotas AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts My Collection
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Sep 26 2011 : 4:29:27 PM
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Woderful, that is something!!! This lens is something new for my eyes! |
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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
4212 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Sep 26 2011 : 6:56:13 PM
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Hi Aidas, congratulations! Very fine lens, I've never seen one before! Wow! 1.5/50mm! |
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Aidas Pikiotas AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts My Collection
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Sep 27 2011 : 06:41:20 AM
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Magnifique! The JLP says nothing about this lens, except that it was not really produced. Do you have other details about it, Aidas? Thanks for the pictures...
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Sep 27 2011 : 10:47:40 AM
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Bravo Aidas, very nice find! I have seen this lens in some old articles about history of KMZ. As far as I know it is prototype of Jupiter-3 (like Orchid-1 is prototype of Jupiter-8). Congratulations!
Regards, Alexander |
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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xalmaz
Russia
33 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Oct 02 2011 : 08:40:55 AM
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quote: Originally posted by AlexanderK
As far as I know it is prototype of Jupiter-3 (like Orchid-1 is prototype of Jupiter-8).
Congratulations Aidas!
Dear Alexander, Orchid-3 cannot be prototype of Jupiter-3(and Orchid-1 cannot be prototype of Jupiter-8) because Orchid-1 was calculated in 1956(Orchid-3 was calculated in 1959, according GOI catalogue 1963). This is if you don't look optical schemes of Orchids...
http://xalmaz.narod.ru |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Oct 02 2011 : 08:57:14 AM
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xalmaz,
very interesting catalogue! Thank you very much.
Regards, Alexander |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Oct 07 2011 : 09:34:26 AM
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Working Zenit-18 #8602323 with Zenitar-ME1 #861738 and almost like new Granit-11N #861095. Don't ask me how these fit together, even the seller had no idea!
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/7102011_Z18.jpg
Best regards, Juhani |
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Jacques M.
France
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Ulrich W. uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Oct 09 2011 : 4:08:37 PM
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Jacques,
my first thought was "46 FED 1, what a crazy guy", then I counted my FED 1. I counted 20 and I was sure that there were not more than 10 :-)
Congratulations to the FED 1 with the strange serial number. I own one with serial 2850 which looks exactly like yours, the only different is the normal vulcanite instead of the brown one.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W. uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Oct 09 2011 : 4:10:23 PM
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Martti,
nice, seems that you are building a "Jupiter 9 farm" to grow them up and have children ;-)
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 07:18:08 AM
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Not bad, Ulrich, not bad. Still an effort to be as mad as me...
Amitiés. |
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Colin urban-wombat
Australia
71 Posts |
Posted - Oct 13 2011 : 01:19:51 AM
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Fotokor .
 Testing .. paper negative f18 2 mins + yellow filter

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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Oct 13 2011 : 03:10:11 AM
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Ulrich,
yes, my farm have already aftergrowth, one little girl jupiter-12 and boy jupiter-3. Now I hope, that they will grow and be jupiter-6!!!
Best, Martti |
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Nov 17 2011 : 07:54:01 AM
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Hello,
One of my friends, a French collector, received lately some interesting items. He sent them to me. Here are three of them:
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/17112011_Photos PYC 0 001.jpg
For the Industar 24M, I am a bit surprised. The diaphragm ring seems turning just the reverse than it should. At f22: it's all open. And it is closed at f 3,5...
Probably I don't understand something!
About the two Feds, I will open separate threads.
Amitiés. Jacques. |
Edited by - Jacques M. on Nov 17 2011 08:28:34 AM |
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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okynek
759 Posts |
Posted - Nov 28 2011 : 10:30:54 AM
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Very nice! I never had underwater case for Start camera in my hands. How did you find one ! Would you be able to add your pictures to Wiki? |
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Martti Muda fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Nov 29 2011 : 02:12:14 AM
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My wife friends friend have get it in observatory and was thinking to use it. But then he decide to sell it. He have asked me, do I wat it. I have asked pictures. But he but it in auction. So I called him and make offer and get it without auction. It is bought in 67 year and is never used.
Wiki in something new for me, if I can, I will add the pictures.
Here is picture of my KRAB... sadly without gear and stuff
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/29112011_02.jpg
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Membedeep
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Posted - Dec 05 2011 : 02:58:46 AM
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TOCHKA-58M / S-252 type b used by the Romanian secret service, like new. I paid for it around $10, but I'm sure it is worth much more. How much do you think? There are only few informations on the internet. It works fine and I also have 9 other lenses, like the one mounted on it. Sorry for the crappy pictures... 



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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
4212 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Dec 05 2011 : 10:29:35 PM
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Wow!! $10   I've seen these sold for around at least $500.. great buy, congratulations! |
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Membedeep
4 Posts |
Posted - Dec 07 2011 : 07:45:00 AM
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My last russian camera, along with a classic Sputnik, is a Fed S with the 2/50 lens. The camera has serial number 56054 and the lens has the serial number 21334. Are there several types of Fed S? Thank you! |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Dec 07 2011 : 07:59:07 AM
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Hello, There are as many Fed S as 1c, d and e types... So, including the sub series: - 5 1c type, - 3 1d type, - 1 1e type, If we count some "original" Fed S engraved Leica, you can find at least 10 different Fed S. And special ones were made with leatherette and ears for straps.
Yours must be (by the serial number)the first 1c type, with a grey/green vulcanite coming from late 1b.
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts |
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Dec 10 2011 : 11:43:08 AM
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Hello Frédéric!
A very nice outfit. It seems abolutely complete, even with the spectacles! 
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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