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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts
Posted - Jul 12 2011 :  01:25:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Fred,
YES, the "Moment" cameras have the only serial number on the lens.

Regards, Alexander
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts
Posted - Jul 12 2011 :  04:03:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Alex

Thank you for information...
I have been searching for so long time to find a second number on my bodies.....
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Jul 17 2011 :  08:32:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

An interesting 1949 Kiev III not common.
A comparison between this one and a wartime Contax III. Soon!

Amitiés. Jacques.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1772011_Kiev III 1949 001.JPG

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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts
Posted - Jul 17 2011 :  09:07:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bravo, Jacques
rather rare camera.
I found Kiev-III from 1948 some time ago. Perhaps they have much in common.




Regards, Alexander
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Jul 17 2011 :  09:29:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Yours is much rarer, Alexander.
It has an "A" serial number?

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Jul 19 2011 :  12:06:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

My last born: a 1949 Kiev II.
More common than its brother 1949 III.
Jacques.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1972011_Kiev II 1949 016.JPG

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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Jul 24 2011 :  4:27:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
FED 1948 ZORKI, unfortunatley without orginal lens...


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2472011_fedzorki.jpg

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Jacek
Omega
France
25 Posts
Posted - Aug 07 2011 :  05:45:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Zenit Labo: KMZ Logo Made in USSR on the sole

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/782011_Labo.jpg



I do not speak English, I use Google Language Tools

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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 09 2011 :  03:45:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Labo is nice, I hope I will get it somewhere...
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 09 2011 :  08:32:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Body from Russia, lens in Estonia. Both have serial 86...


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/982011_01.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/982011_02.jpg

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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 25 2011 :  04:13:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here is my liliput, now looking for maliutka


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2582011_lilput1.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2582011_liliput2.jpg

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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 27 2011 :  4:33:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Another KIEV II from 1949. It comes with a collapsible Zorki ZK. There are some interesting details, Focus wheel like a Contax (with groove), rewind knob with 4 instead of 3 milled rows, but no more flatened "3" on focus helix and film reminder wheel (see pictures).

The collapsible Zorki has no serial numer inside (as the Sonnars) but it has an hand engraved number inside, the number is 197. So maybe this was the time when they went from Sonnars to self made Zorki lenses?

Another interesting thing is that the shutter has a hand engraved number too inside. It looks similar to the hand engraved number on my very early Kiev II from 1950 and the serials are only 2400 numbers different.

Does anybody know if there was a time when the shutters were numbered by hand? My first thought when I saw this number on the 1950 Kiev was that it was later made. But now when I see a similar engraved number on the 1949 Kiev I think this could be factory made.











Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 27 2011 :  4:35:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Alexander,

a great KIEV III! Specially the lens with it's serial number...

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts
Posted - Aug 28 2011 :  02:16:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ulrich,

very interesting information. I have also a Kiev-II from 1949 with a collapsible Zorki ZK, BUT the lens has s/n 4900415 and DOES NOT have any hand engraved number inside.
The Soviets had to register all separate parts for the new Kiev-Contax cameras (and for another cameras as well ) and it could be possible, that since some time they started to register these lens-parts for some internal use too.

Regards, Alexander
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Aug 28 2011 :  03:46:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Very interesting, Ulrich!
Do you have a picture of the hand engraved number near the shutter?
It seems I have seen something similar on one of my 1950 Kiev II, but I don't remember exactly where it was...

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 28 2011 :  04:23:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jacques,

I did not make a picture of the engraved serial number of the 1949 Kiev but one of the 1950 one. The 1949 serial engraving style looks similar.
To see that number you have to disassemble the camera partly (take off the top).



Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

Edited by - uwittehh on Aug 28 2011 04:25:33 AM
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Aug 28 2011 :  3:44:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thanks, Ulrich.
Soon I will check on one of my early Kievs.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Sep 01 2011 :  10:35:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Today I got home FED-C "Komandirskij FED", serial 138730 carera and 26504 lens making it approx 1940.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/192011_FedC.JPG



Best regards,
Juhani
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Sep 02 2011 :  11:04:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Fine, Juhani!
With a hole in the press film, I suppose?

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Sep 04 2011 :  06:15:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes!

Best regards,
Juhani
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts
Posted - Sep 11 2011 :  2:53:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the new in my collection "7-eyes" LOMO-twins: Sokol-automat and its export-"brother" Aurora-automat.




Regards, Alexander
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Sep 26 2011 :  06:40:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Not yet received, but bought some days ago: as it seems a Fed 1a reingraved Leica with a one turn lens (reingraved Elmar).
It can be an interesting camera or a pure fake!
I will tell you when received.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Sep 26 2011 :  09:47:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
very nice Orchid-3 lens for Zorki RF.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2692011_orchid-3.jpg

Best regards,
Aidas
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Sep 26 2011 :  4:29:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Woderful, that is something!!!
This lens is something new for my eyes!
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Sep 26 2011 :  6:56:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Aidas, congratulations! Very fine lens, I've never seen one before! Wow! 1.5/50mm!
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Sep 27 2011 :  01:31:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks. Please find attached comparison picture with ZK Zorki 1.5/50 (1949). Both beauties released by KMZ.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2792011_ZK_vs_Orchid_4.jpg

Best regards,
Aidas
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Sep 27 2011 :  06:41:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Magnifique!
The JLP says nothing about this lens, except that it was not really produced.
Do you have other details about it, Aidas?
Thanks for the pictures...

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts
Posted - Sep 27 2011 :  10:47:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bravo Aidas,
very nice find! I have seen this lens in some old articles about history of KMZ.
As far as I know it is prototype of Jupiter-3 (like Orchid-1 is prototype of Jupiter-8).
Congratulations!

Regards, Alexander
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Sep 30 2011 :  08:49:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here are my latest cameras...


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/3092011_cameras.jpg

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xalmaz
Russia
33 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Oct 02 2011 :  08:40:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit xalmaz's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlexanderK

As far as I know it is prototype of Jupiter-3 (like Orchid-1 is prototype of Jupiter-8).



Congratulations Aidas!

Dear Alexander,
Orchid-3 cannot be prototype of Jupiter-3(and Orchid-1 cannot be prototype of Jupiter-8) because Orchid-1 was calculated in 1956(Orchid-3 was calculated in 1959, according GOI catalogue 1963). This is if you don't look optical schemes of Orchids...

http://xalmaz.narod.ru
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts
Posted - Oct 02 2011 :  08:57:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
xalmaz,

very interesting catalogue! Thank you very much.

Regards, Alexander
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Oct 07 2011 :  09:34:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Working Zenit-18 #8602323 with Zenitar-ME1 #861738 and almost like new Granit-11N #861095. Don't ask me how these fit together, even the seller had no idea!


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/7102011_Z18.jpg



Best regards,
Juhani
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Oct 07 2011 :  2:09:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My Zenitar-ME1 serial is 861766, very close.

And here is my black jupiter-9 for kiev RF.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/7102011_kievRF1.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/7102011_kievRF2.jpg

Best, Martti
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Oct 08 2011 :  06:55:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Received today my 46th Fed 1. All are different!
An interesting one, even if not beautiful. It's an 1b with
- a number of 1a,
- brown patterned vulcanite,
- large engraved lettering.

All that makes me think that the (real) serial number could be around 26000.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/8102011_Fed 1b 4580 001.JPG


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/8102011_Fed 1b 4580 002.JPG

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Oct 09 2011 :  4:08:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jacques,

my first thought was "46 FED 1, what a crazy guy", then I counted my FED 1. I counted 20 and I was sure that there were not more than 10 :-)

Congratulations to the FED 1 with the strange serial number. I own one with serial 2850 which looks exactly like yours, the only different is the normal vulcanite instead of the brown one.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Oct 09 2011 :  4:10:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Martti,

nice, seems that you are building a "Jupiter 9 farm" to grow them up and have children ;-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Oct 10 2011 :  07:18:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Not bad, Ulrich, not bad. Still an effort to be as mad as me...

Amitiés.
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Colin
urban-wombat
Australia
71 Posts
Posted - Oct 13 2011 :  01:19:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fotokor .


Testing .. paper negative f18 2 mins + yellow filter



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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Oct 13 2011 :  03:10:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ulrich,

yes, my farm have already aftergrowth, one little girl jupiter-12 and boy jupiter-3. Now I hope, that they will grow and be jupiter-6!!!

Best, Martti
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Oct 19 2011 :  11:44:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My latest finds...

VESNA

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/19102011_vesna.jpg

and FKD 13x18 (new)

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/19102011_01.jpg


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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Nov 17 2011 :  07:54:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,

One of my friends, a French collector, received lately some interesting items. He sent them to me. Here are three of them:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/17112011_Photos PYC 0 001.jpg

For the Industar 24M, I am a bit surprised. The diaphragm ring seems turning just the reverse than it should. At f22: it's all open. And it is closed at f 3,5...

Probably I don't understand something!

About the two Feds, I will open separate threads.

Amitiés. Jacques.

Edited by - Jacques M. on Nov 17 2011 08:28:34 AM
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Nov 26 2011 :  3:44:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here is KIF, underwater box for start!
I like KRAB more!!!


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112011_01.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112011_02.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112011_03.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112011_04.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112011_05.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112011_06.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112011_07.jpg

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okynek
759 Posts
Posted - Nov 28 2011 :  10:30:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice! I never had underwater case for Start camera in my hands.
How did you find one !
Would you be able to add your pictures to Wiki?
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Nov 29 2011 :  02:12:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My wife friends friend have get it in observatory and was thinking to use it. But then he decide to sell it. He have asked me, do I wat it. I have asked pictures. But he but it in auction. So I called him and make offer and get it without auction.
It is bought in 67 year and is never used.

Wiki in something new for me, if I can, I will add the pictures.

Here is picture of my KRAB...
sadly without gear and stuff


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/29112011_02.jpg

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Membedeep
4 Posts
Posted - Dec 05 2011 :  02:58:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TOCHKA-58M / S-252 type b used by the Romanian secret service, like new. I paid for it around $10, but I'm sure it is worth much more. How much do you think? There are only few informations on the internet. It works fine and I also have 9 other lenses, like the one mounted on it. Sorry for the crappy pictures...







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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 05 2011 :  10:29:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow!! $10 I've seen these sold for around at least $500.. great buy, congratulations!
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Membedeep
4 Posts
Posted - Dec 07 2011 :  07:45:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My last russian camera, along with a classic Sputnik, is a Fed S with the 2/50 lens. The camera has serial number 56054 and the lens has the serial number 21334. Are there several types of Fed S? Thank you!
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Dec 07 2011 :  07:59:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hello,
There are as many Fed S as 1c, d and e types...
So, including the sub series:
- 5 1c type,
- 3 1d type,
- 1 1e type,
If we count some "original" Fed S engraved Leica, you can find at least 10 different Fed S. And special ones were made with leatherette and ears for straps.

Yours must be (by the serial number)the first 1c type, with a grey/green vulcanite coming from late 1b.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts
Posted - Dec 09 2011 :  12:47:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all....

I think this outfit is no very rare, but I found it as you see in pictures. Complete with shades for camera, strap, battery!
In very good shape, as you can see...


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/9122011_Fed Stereo_1.JPG




http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/9122011_Fed Stereo_2.JPG

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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts
Posted - Dec 10 2011 :  11:43:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hello Frédéric!

A very nice outfit. It seems abolutely complete, even with the spectacles!

Amitiés. Jacques.
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