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Kiev 19M

Created by Vlad on 9/8/2007 12:33:28 AM
Last Edited by cedricfan on 1/1/2008 2:17:03 PM  
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad

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Posted - Dec 04 2007 :  4:19:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where is the serial # on this one??
There a paper sticker inside the slot for the film cassette that says 155725 but I though the first 2 digits need to be year?

Vlad
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Posted - Dec 05 2007 :  11:35:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vlad

...but I though the first 2 digits need to be year?


It was not the standard. Simply usual practice, not more.
Numbering was defined by the designer* in the product documentation.

*) -- The "designer" in sense "the technical developer", instead of the "art-designer" (in the Russia "konstruktor" and "desayner" are different trades and words, but in English -- one word: "designer" ;).
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Dec 05 2007 :  11:42:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Zoom, what's interesting is that the Kiev 19 has year prefix but 19M has a small paper sticker inside the camera.. how odd is that! 19M has much more plastic parts as well, so maybe paper sticker is a next logical step.
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
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Posted - Dec 05 2007 :  12:12:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just read my archives: Both mine that I have had did have the yearcode, as I have written 1995 & 1996 in my list. It is also possible that I have used lens serial if that one has "yearcode"?

http://www.cedricfan.sivut.ws/Juhani's%20website%20ORIGINAALIT/
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
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Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  02:14:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
just read my records. Both my Kiev-19M cameras have no date prefixes in theirs serials, and both come with paper stickers indeed ...
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
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Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  06:26:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How about lens, I haven't got any 19M's any more to check from? Or did mine have passports with data...

http://www.cedricfan.sivut.ws/Juhani's%20website%20ORIGINAALIT/
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
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Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  06:42:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Juhani,
You are absolutely right. Kiev-19M camera came with Arsat-H 50mm lens. To look at my case first lens was made in 1995, and second one - in 1996.
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
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Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  07:13:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And propably original lenses as possibility from getting mixed from another 19M is not big!
Case solved & closed?

http://www.cedricfan.sivut.ws/Juhani's%20website%20ORIGINAALIT/
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
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Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  08:01:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was lucky to buy one with original papers ...
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