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BERRY alain
mermoz37

France
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Posted - Dec 16 2007 :  1:48:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi all friends ,
does anyone know if never exist a black Jupiter 11 for Kiev (kiev II, II, IV etc...) ?

Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 17 2007 :  05:42:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have never met the black J-11 personally ...
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 17 2007 :  07:47:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have one, but only in 39mm screw for zorki/fed.
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Ernesto L´Episcopo
ernestojl
Argentina
6 Posts
Posted - Dec 17 2007 :  08:05:21 AM  Show Profile  Click to see ernestojl's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
AFAIK, it never existed.
The only 135 mm f4 in black (partially) were some early Sonnars made for the Contax I in brass body, instead of polished aluminum (Jupiters).
Since introduction of the Contax II in 1936, Zeiss made only chrome or nickel on brass lenses for those cameras. Arsenal adopted this last style but cheaper and lighter.

Ernesto

Kiev ´62 & ´66
Z1 ´55 & Z4 ´65
Some Jupiters too...

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Zoom
596 Posts
Posted - Dec 17 2007 :  08:38:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ernestojl

Arsenal adopted this last style but cheaper and lighter.


You mean KMZ? ;)
http://www.zenitcamera.com/archive/lenses/jupiter-11.html
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okynek
759 Posts
Posted - Dec 17 2007 :  10:41:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I know for Kiev 2, 3, 4 only "white" J11 was built.
Black J11 may exist to fit Kiev 5 prototype. It was used for camera initial demonstration/approval/exhibition. But this is not confirmed. As I know no true-black J11 for Kiev RF was found so far.
As well as not found and most likely not exist, "white" J11 for Kiev 10,15,17,19,20.
But just bacause Alain the one who ask this question he may be on something and I may be wrong.

Edited by - okynek on Dec 17 2007 10:42:23 AM
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 18 2007 :  04:33:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no...i am not on something ...i just try to make a complete black lenses set for Kiev as i did whith zorki...
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