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Ulrich W.
uwittehh

Germany
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Posted - May 08 2024 :  5:15:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Although I know that this is about Soviet cameras... the Contax III is the predecessor of the KIEV III, but this Contax III is very special.
The light meter cover has holes, the light meter setting looks like a Contax IIIa or a Kiev 4, but also somehow different.
I've never seen a camera like this before, what might it be? A conversion in the 50s, because, yes, why? Or a prototype? It is from 1938, as you can see from the G serial number.
Have a look at the pictures, I will take it apart soon to see more details:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/852024_IMGL7146.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/852024_IMGL7147.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/852024_IMGL7148.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/852024_IMGL7150.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/852024_IMGL7151.jpg

Ulrich

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1992 Posts
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Posted - May 08 2024 :  6:30:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
According with Zeiss Historica that was a pilot series with two light levels of measuring.
The same system was applied in the Super ikonta rangefinder 6x6 where could be seen more frequently although super rare "white fly" piece.
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
828 Posts
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Posted - May 08 2024 :  6:38:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Luiz, thanks for mentioning the Super Ikonta, I've seen that somewhere before (the perforated flap of the light meter), but I couldn't remember where.
I also understood about the 2 levels of metering, green with the flap closed and otherwise with the flap open. The light meter still reacts when the flap is open, but no longer when it is closed.
Thanks for the info :-)

Ulrich

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1992 Posts
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Posted - May 10 2024 :  12:11:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the closed position is for using in high lighted summer days. as in Greece for example. Mountais or sea shore.
in Brazil I have gone to Ceará state the light there is so high that exposure meters go to the maximum value at sea shore.
Regards
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - May 10 2024 :  2:40:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Luiz, thanks for the info. Do you have any idea how many of these Contax IIIs were built?

Ulrich

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Jacques M.
France
2589 Posts
Posted - May 12 2024 :  10:41:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

What an interesting find!
Do we know if there is something new about the cell inside, compared to the ordinary Contax III? It's curious that this pilot series was not really produced...
Congrats, Ulrich!

Jacques.
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SteveA
United Kingdom
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Posted - May 14 2024 :  04:16:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I understand it, this was a factory conversion that was offered, whereby the old carbon track resistor etc., was replaced with Super Ikonta components. Basically it eliminated the issues experienced with the carbon track, I think the original selenium cell was retained and an in line resistor was replaced to calibrate the cell to the new arrangement, the card register which the needle used to indicate the exposure value was replaced as you no longer zero'd the needle but read off a value. I suspect if Contax III production had continued post-war then this would have been a modification fitted to production cameras, the carbon tracks were always a source of problems as the track gradually wore from use.
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - May 14 2024 :  10:41:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Perfectly clear. Thanks Steve.
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - May 14 2024 :  12:57:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Steve, interesting information. Correct, these carbon tracks are always a problem (also with the Kievs), either they no longer work at all or the pointer always jumps jerkily.
When I have more time next time I will take the Contax apart and have a closer look at what has been installed/modified there.

Ulrich

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1992 Posts
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Posted - May 18 2024 :  08:46:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A friend of mine has a Superikonta (Post war) bought new in 1951 with Zeiss Opton coated lens, name registered in 1949, witha simitar exposure meter.
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1992 Posts
My Collection

Posted - May 18 2024 :  09:15:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote



http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/1852024_si1.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/1852024_si2.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/1852024_si3.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/1852024_si44.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/1852024_si55.jpeg

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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - May 18 2024 :  2:26:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Luiz,

yes, it looks similar. The difference is that it is conical on the Super-Ikonta, but straight on the Contax. The scale looks identical.
It's also interesting that the window of the scale and the accessory shoe are reversed on the Super-Ikonta.
Incidentally, the Contax also has a built-in flash socket, as you can see in the third picture. It doesn't look like it was retrofitted. But we'll see more when I have the time to take it apart.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1992 Posts
My Collection

Posted - May 20 2024 :  12:21:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
probably this Camera uses remanescent prewar remaining Compur Rapid once Rolleiflex 2.8 from the same era is synchonized
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
1992 Posts
My Collection

Posted - May 20 2024 :  12:28:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
one more picture of Super Ikonta


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2052024_si88.jpeg

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