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jed
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 Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:02:58 AM
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Hello,
Looking closely at some early Jupiter 8 lenses in Kiev mount I can identify about 5 different types.
I assume that this has already be done before so please correct me if I'm wrong, and add samples.
Here we go :
Picture one Type1, Type1A
On the left, type 1 is pretty close to the ZK lens with the 'ears'. Besides it's the same without 'ears'. So, Two lenses : T1, T1A.
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jed
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:04:18 AM
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Picture two Type2
A comparison between T1A and the pretty common version of J8 (type 2). There's some obvious differences. T2 has a blakened outside filter ring (1), focusing barrel is not so large (2), mount manufacturing is slightly different (3)
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jed
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:05:44 AM
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Picture three Type2 Type2A
Around 1957 there's no more 'n°' printed close to the s/n. Lens seems to be identical. So, Type 2A 
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jed
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:06:46 AM
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Picture four Type3
Still a Jupiter 8 but it shares some parts with the following J8M. Sample pictured is a late 1959 jupiter 8. s/n 5901786
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okynek
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:16:09 AM
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| This is great article! Would you continue to classify Jupiter 8M? |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:34:25 AM
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Jed, it is a great article, how come you posted it to forums though instead of articles section? I can repost it there for you later.
Thanks,
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zhang
Kievuser
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:41:53 AM
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Thanks Jed. I find it very interesting.:-)
Best Regards,
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jed
France
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 11:29:11 AM
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Thanks lots !
Okynet,
Sadly I only own some samples between 1958 - 1962. I need later samples, so feel free to post pictures.
Vlad,
I agree the articles section is a better place, but I think we can improve the classification before. So feel free to post comments or pictures of your lens if they don't match my list.
Best,
Jed
PS : Vlad, I realise that I can edit the text and pictures in the articles section. So, you can copy my post in the proper section. Thanks ! |
Edited by - jed on Jan 27 2008 12:11:18 PM |
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jed
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 1:25:16 PM
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There's a another lens between type 1A and type 2. I'll post picture later.
btw : the list includes the lens in chronlogical order.
type 1 / Type 1A : 1950-1951
type 2 : 1955 - 1957
type 2A : 1957 - 1959
type 3 : 1959 (1958 ?)
type 4 : 1951 - 1959 |
Edited by - jed on Jan 30 2008 2:29:05 PM |
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jed
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Posted - Jan 28 2008 : 11:04:47 AM
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A new addition : type 4
1951-1959
made both by KMZ or Arsenal
pretty close to type 2 but outside filter ring is the same as type 1 (non painted) and there's a pretty fine engraved s/n.
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jed
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Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 2:28:36 PM
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Looking at the rear of the lens there's no black paint added for type 1, 1a and early type 4 (1951). Type 2 - like type 3 - is always found with black paint as shown :
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Edited by - jed on Jan 30 2008 2:30:25 PM |
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dee * [ adopted ] dowling
dee
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Posted - Oct 09 2009 : 4:03:08 PM
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I must look at my lenses now !
Thanks
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Kiev mount Jupiter 8 types
