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okynek
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 Posted - Aug 21 2008 : 4:19:09 PM
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Just got e-Mail from eBay that they will jack up prices to sell on eBay by the end of September.
Cameras and Photo are in better shape then most of the categories: Selling cameras on eBay will cost 8% for first $50 and 4.5% after this; Books premium up to 15%, close and other stuff 12%. Do not forget to add 5% or so for PayPal.
Ebay will no longer allow sellers accept checks and money orders. Companies like Western bid not welcome there too. Only fat PayPal and direct CC payment will be acceptable. Western Union and Money Gram was banded from eBay long time ago.
All this because eBay so much care about bidders. They are worry about fraud on the Internet. Kiss my )( ! They are worry only about trillions $$$ they get!!! Greed and smell coming from this company. And no valuable alternative on the Internet
This action EBay hope finally get reed of individual sellers. 'White threads' covered this goal for last 3 years. And today anointments put last nails to this coffin.
What it means to us? Not only higher prices and smaller choice, but many possibly rare and semi-rare cameras will end up in the garbich, less people will buy old cameras, less people will collect and use them. Everybody will lose, but eBay.
And not only that! Soon eBay going to tell what to buy, where to buy, how much to pay. Even they announcements they made in best styles of XXV congress of KPSU: we are reducing prices, so you going to pay more. How happy!!!!
In other words: Back to USSR !!!
For detail information see and analize:
http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/BasicFees/
http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Overview/ |
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Don Gillette
dgillette4
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - Aug 21 2008 : 9:08:07 PM
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 So much for e-bay, and so much more for Ussr.photo, I would feel better buying from someone through this site than e-bay. I had a bad expirence with e-bay and will not sell there. Don
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Frank Lambert
Frankl
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 07:23:13 AM
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I buy quite often on Ebay and, have only sold a few things. I also use PayPal almost exclusively. I did have the experience of having to go back to PayPal to recover a payment for an item that I never received and, PayPal responded very effectively and I did manage to recover the money. However, I TOTALLY disagree with the direction that Ebay is taking in regards particularly, to their new "rule" of not allowing checks and Money Orders as payment methods. In my opinion this is nothing more than a "plan" (bad one) to put more cash in their hands, by directing funds through PayPal and, in no way is it designed to "help" the sellers and buyers. I sent them an e-mail which "detailed" my opinion and, I know that just one opinion will not "sway" their decision but, perhaps thay would listen if they they received "volumes" expressing the same opinion. So, I would encourage all those who do use this source and, disagree with their proposed changes, to let them know what you think.... The other choice would be to just become the "silent majority"..... Just my opinion, for what it's worth.....
PS: Sorry to sound like a "political activist" but, I am just P#$$%@!
Regards to all,
Frank |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 10:52:40 AM
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Thanks to have warned us, okynek.
Of course, I totally disagree with eBay positions.
In most cases, I pay by international money order or by free transfer when I have the chance to buy a camera from a European.
I think eBay is going too far with rules they build for themselves.
Jacques.
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Stephan Van den Zegel
stephanvdz
Belgium
176 Posts |
Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 3:46:27 PM
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and furthermore they move categories around, on ebay France they skipped the catégory "photographica" to mix it with all the other photo categories... (even if in France that category was always at least 1200 item worth)...
sounds like someone doesn't know how the buyers behave... they prefer professional sellers, and volume sellers...
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okynek
759 Posts |
Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 3:53:08 PM
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I think that many FSU sellers may quit selling. Most of them unable to set up PayPal account and most of them using third party payment services or checks/money orders. All of this will be outlaw by October.
Few years ago, after eBay start hunting for sellers accepting Western-Union/Money-Gram, price for FSU cameras jump $5 in average, in my experiences. New rules are going to heart us, and they put many sellers out of business.
But it all for a good cause: new yacht for chairman!!!
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Don Gillette
dgillette4
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 5:03:26 PM
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If I recall Rosie Odonell is on the board of directors .of E-Bay .Also I heard that there is a new internet in the works. Can anyone verify this for me? And as I said this is an opportunity to expand sales from sellers on USSR.Photo. Don
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Don Gillette
dgillette4
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 5:16:23 PM
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I'm not sure my comment went through so here again. I e-mail e-bay that as a retiree I can't afford to buy from them any more and to cancel my membership. Don
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okynek
759 Posts |
Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 10:18:13 PM
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I sent e-Mail to eBay support too. I was so enthusiastic when I firs discover eBay more then 10 years ago. I become one of the first 10.000 eBay members in January of 1997. Way before they become American and Word wide phenomenon. This was such fresh and innovated company, run by 2 yang guys. No one like it!!! They were nice, honest, and helpful. They charge, as I remember nickel for listing + 2% of sale price. They could not accept Credit Cards, so I have to send them a check
And 11 years eBay become fat and hairy spider whose only goal to sock up last drop of live from any one who trapped in it net. Someone call it a Capitalism, but it's not, it opposite. Capitalism is a fair competition what moved forward progress, eBay has no competition and no progress for last 8 years. So it should be called Socialism. And it's stinks.
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4247 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 10:33:31 PM
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Well you guys may flame me here but I actually do somewhat understand the changes:
As a seller (I sell quite a lot) and a buyer I hate money order transactions.. I had them 4 times - twice I got burned for more than $100:
as a buyer I sent a money order, never received the item, seller became unregistered on eBay and I lost the money. As a seller I received a money order, which somehow bounced after 10 days being in the bank because it was fraudulent, item was sent by me already. I'd rather pay extra for PayPal now for extra protection, than having faced those situations. As a seller I only accept PayPal now, no money orders or checks. As a buyer I only pay PalPal since quite a few times with the volume I buy I tend not to get some packages and that protects me...
So for me PayPal is like mafia, I don't mind paying a bit extra for protection if it saves me headaches.. 
Vlad
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James McGee
James McGee
Azerbaijan
192 Posts |
Posted - Aug 22 2008 : 10:55:03 PM
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Hello everyone,
Just want to reinforce what has already been said by everyone else. E-bay started as a great idea, but like many things as it gets bigger it seems to become greedier.
I have only ever bought one item from e-bay, that was quite recently and the item was okay, but in general I am extremely wary of buying from this site because I have heard so many horror stories.
These days there seem to be too many dishonest dealers out to make a quick buck. That's a shame because there are of course many honest sellers as well.
So remember the phrase, "Buyer beware"
Best wishes, Jim.
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Frank Lambert
Frankl
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - Aug 23 2008 : 05:18:18 AM
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Just a matter of information:
This is the response I received to my "complaint" to Ebay. My original communication is also attached. I was really surprised that they even bothered to respond at all....
Regards to all,
Frank....
Dear Frank,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the new payment requirements.
I understand your frustration in this matter. Let me try to explain the
reasons for these changes. We're making this change to better meet buyer
expectations for a consistent, more secure checkout experience on eBay.
Right now, 1 out of 5 eBay transactions send buyers off eBay to complete
their purchase. Buyers' experiences vary greatly depending on the seller
and their payment provider. This lowers buyer confidence in eBay and
leaves buyers more vulnerable to online fraud. By using only integrated
electronic payment methods in eBay checkout, buyers will be able to stay
on eBay to pay.
Buyers will also have fewer bad experiences, and if something does go
wrong, they will have more recourse. Buyers who pay with a check or
money order on eBay.com today are 80% more likely to file an "item not
received" dispute, and 50% more likely to leave a negative feedback than
buyers who pay with PayPal or a credit card. Starting in late October,
eligible items paid with PayPal on eBay.com will be covered by PayPal
Buyer Protection with no coverage limit and at no additional cost, and
all other approved electronic payment methods' services will also
include consumer protection.
This should increase buyer confidence in shopping on eBay, which should
result in more buyers and increased sales for sellers. The change will
directly benefit sellers by making payments faster and more reliable,
enabling sellers to ship more quickly and increase buyer satisfaction.
Moreover, sellers with their own merchant credit card processing
account, and sellers who use a third-party credit card processor, may
offer their buyers the option of paying directly with a credit card
online (including through third-party checkout) or by phone in addition
to or instead of PayPal.
We thank you in advance for your cooperation, and wish you luck with
your future eBay transactions.
Sincerely,
Jay K.
eBay Customer Support
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This is in reference to your "new" payment requirements of not being
able to pay by check or money order:
Just for the record, I always use PayPal as a buying or selling source
for transfer of funds and, I have had very positive experiences with
this source. My current impression, however, of your planned
elimination of checks and MO's, is ludicrious! It is very evident that
your only motivation is to "funnel" more profit into your PayPal channel
by "eliminating" the competition. This is an obvious gesture in that
direction and, in my opinion, is no way, a procedure to help Ebay
sellers and/or buyers. You would do well to take a look at the
"comments" already circulating on the internet, concerning your proposed
"new rules" (others included, related to changes in fees, etc.). Bottom
line is, you are going to loose sellers and, I am NOT impressed with
your direction either. If there was
another option, other than Ebay, I am definately one of MANY that would
incorporate that option into my buying and selling activities. Just my
opinion but, I really believe that your internal "greed" is getting a
"front row seat". Such is "big business"..... too bad, Ebay used to be
a good place but your goals are obviously; Maximum Profit...immediately,
regardless of the opinion and loyalty of the PEOPLE that have put you
where you are.......
VERY Sincerely,
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Don Gillette
dgillette4
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - Aug 24 2008 : 11:04:59 AM
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 Well put Frank: Bravo..Now to get all users to respond to e-bays money scheme...Don
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Greed = EBay (or not exactly about cameras)
