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Fred_L
France
222 Posts
Posted - Dec 18 2016 :  11:09:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all!!

Maybe this thread has already been opened?
I am surprised about engraving of this lens.
One letter (E) is missing
I have never seen another one like this.
Someone has informations please?

Fred




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contronatura
Netherlands
24 Posts
Posted - Dec 18 2016 :  11:19:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1967 was a tough year, so they saved a bit of white paint by omitting all "E" letters.
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Fred_L
France
222 Posts
Posted - Dec 18 2016 :  11:41:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course!!!!
May be they learned it from the Dutch tradition????
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Fred_L
France
222 Posts
Posted - Dec 20 2016 :  12:47:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all

In fact I would like to know if this engraving is common or not and how many lenses have the same name without the E...

Thank you very much

Fred
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Jacques M.
France
2575 Posts
Posted - Dec 20 2016 :  2:24:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

As for me, I had never seen that...
But how were these beauty rings painted, exactly?
Letter by letter? Impossible. So, certainly a complete serie, without "E", can have been made?

Jacques.
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
584 Posts
Posted - Dec 20 2016 :  3:09:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have also never seen such engraving before.
The letters are stamped, so it could happened, that there was made a wrong stamp (Fr. 13th, or after some corporate party ).
The stamps were realy built letter by letter, so it could happened, that one letter was missed by mistake.

Regards, Alexander
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Jacques M.
France
2575 Posts
Posted - Dec 20 2016 :  3:47:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Well, if letters are stamped one by one, sure it is vodka...
And your lens is really rare, Fred.

I remember the story of the Yasuhara T981, a Chinese camera with its luxurious version, the Phenix JG50 (I owned one). Some of these last cameras were engraved "OFFICAL USA EXPORT" instead of OFFICIAL. The legend says that it was voluntarily made for collectors...

Perhaps it's the same here?
Thanks, Alexander, and prosit!

Jacques.
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
584 Posts
Posted - Dec 20 2016 :  5:01:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jacques,
in this case I think vodka is the best explanation of this engraving .

Regards, Alexander
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Zoom
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Posted - Dec 21 2016 :  01:19:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fred_L

I am surprised about engraving of this lens.

When engraving (indeed it was a handmade work, letter by letter) one position was missing. Nothing extraordinary. Errare humanium est.
For others: it is not necessary to draw conclusions from nothing (I'm about: "vodka" etc.). You can roll up to the fact that begin to talk about eternally drunken Russians engravers that is interfered by bears with balalaikas...

Edited by - Zoom on Dec 21 2016 01:33:24 AM
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Dec 21 2016 :  04:54:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Zoom,

We only were joking about the legend... Of course, "errare humanum est". No need of vodka!
But it is not us who talked about bears and balalaïkas!

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Pierre Tizien
Moxies
France
183 Posts
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Posted - Dec 21 2016 :  6:21:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Moxies's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it's similar mistake with this Jupiter-11 "11.5cm"
http://ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3128
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sean perry
seany65
United Kingdom
313 Posts
Posted - Dec 23 2016 :  4:59:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe it's not an 'error' but the engraver wanted to brighten up a boring day at work by doing the engraving incorrectly?
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
1013 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 24 2016 :  01:42:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On his last day at work

Best regards,
Juhani

Edited by - cedricfan on Dec 24 2016 01:42:51 AM
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