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amog
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Posted - Jun 15 2020 :  10:08:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,I saw this (Japanese) Tweet.
twitter.com/Lens_Fuji/status/1237502229973626881
twitter.com/Lens_Fuji/status/1237594334427353088
The Tweet states that Japan provided technology to Russia in the 1970s, and Almaz was developed by it. It also states that engineers from the Soviet Union came to Japan.
Are these things true?

I looked into this,
photo-escape.ru/phototech/sovetskij-nikon/
The site says "промышленный шпионаж", and I guess Almaz, just like any other camera, just copied a Japanese camera.
I looked into other sites, but it wasn't mentioned about provided technology either.

Also,
shashi.shibusawa.or.jp/details_nenpyo.php?sid=6970
I found out that you can find Nikon's company history on this site, but the chronology doesn't mention anything about the Soviets.
So does anyone know anything about this?

Sorry for poor English.
amog
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Posted - Jun 15 2020 :  10:21:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry for wrong link.
https://twitter.com/Lens_Fuji/status/1237502229973626881
https://twitter.com/Lens_Fuji/status/1237594334427353088

http://photo-escape.ru/phototech/sovetskij-nikon/

https://shashi.shibusawa.or.jp/details_nenpyo.php?sid=6970
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Zoom
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Posted - Jun 23 2020 :  5:50:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amog

The Tweet states that Japan provided technology to Russia in the 1970s, and Almaz was developed by it. It also states that engineers from the Soviet Union came to Japan.
Are these things true?

Nope. Full flapdoodle.

quote:
Originally posted by amog

The site says "промышленный шпионаж", and I guess Almaz, just like any other camera, just copied a Japanese camera.


No. An "Almaz" family cameras are not "just copied Japanese" ones. The techical task from the Union of Journalists of the USSR was this: to make an analog... Just journalists wanted a camera that looks similar to Nikon F, but cheaper and made in the USSR. So Nikon F was used only as an example.
The author uses the term "промышленный шпионаж" (industrial espionage) incorrectly. Where the author express his own thoughts, in most cases he carries nonsense. The rest -- quotes from two reputable sources.

Edited by - Zoom on Jun 23 2020 5:58:56 PM
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amog
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Posted - Jun 26 2020 :  03:10:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. It was very informative.
Do you have any further information, e.g. books, on these matters?
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Zoom
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Posted - Jul 01 2020 :  3:20:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amog

Do you have any further information, e.g. books, on these matters?


Sorry, almost no credible books in this field.
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SteveA
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jul 04 2020 :  11:44:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to Princelle, it was designed by A. Advonine and looked more along the lines of a Minolta XK, which it does on checking Google. Princelle notes that some models did not work very well and others for not very long... I suppose the 'K' mount added flexibility to lens availability and may have opened up export markets for the FSU.

Steve
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amog
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Posted - Jul 19 2020 :  12:40:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. I'm interested in that book and would like to purchase it.
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Guido Studer
Guido
Switzerland
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Posted - Jul 19 2020 :  6:40:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Hello Amog

You can purchase the book from J.L. Princelle here:

http://www.lereveedition.com/en/livres/the-authentic-guide-to-russian-and-soviet-cameras

Best wishes - Guido
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amog
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Posted - Jul 29 2020 :  06:47:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry it took me so long to reply.
Thank you. I'm going to buy that book next month.
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