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Jacques M.
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Posted - Feb 15 2014 : 03:41:34 AM
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I have just done it. Thanks.
Considering the weight, sure the barrels are not made in alloy... Really, I doubt that Sonnarex and 1.5/5.8 Sonnars were made by the same... Perhaps the glass?
Your lens seems not to be coated?
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Ulrich W. uwittehh
Germany
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Feb 15 2014 : 07:43:39 AM
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Yes, Ulrich, I had seen it. It was posted by Marc James Small, from the Zeiss Society.
Wie geht's?
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Aug 30 2016 : 08:06:34 AM
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Another exotic 1,5/5,8cm Sonnar here:
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/3082016_DSCF2527.JPG
It was found on a 1949 Leiva IIIc "sharkskin". The seller could not tell me when the lens was put on the body.
This lens is coated (like the s/n 1407293). But it has a red "T" mark on the beauty ring. And the same 40,5mm screw mount for filters as the Zeiss original 1,5/5cm Sonnar...
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Jacques M.
France
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Feb 12 2017 : 11:39:51 AM
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Back to this topic always about the 1,5/5,8cm Sonnar s/n 1407059. Altix dismounted it and made the scheme of the lens:
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1222017_Sonnar1407059.jpg
The different parts of the lens are mounted from the front towards the rear. Seeing the complexity (and the number of these lenses: certainly around 500), probably the work was made by Zeiss workers who had "found" spare parts...
Thanks, Altix.
Jacques.
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altix
Ukraine
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Sep 16 2017 : 10:48:56 AM
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Thanks, Altix. So, another exotic Sonnar, in Contax mount, that time... The detachable ring is rare and interesting too... What was it for, exactly? And what does the beauty ring read?
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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altix
Ukraine
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Posted - Sep 18 2017 : 07:59:28 AM
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Dear Jacques, the beauty ring mimics the standard one. It is written there "Sonnar 1:1,5 f=5cm Carl Zeiss Jena Nr . 3144117". The use of 3 in the beginning of the serial was probably dictated by imitation reasons. Of course the focal length is not 5 but rather 6 cm.
The filter ring does not fits for 40.5 mm screw-in filters or sun shades. Probably the additional ring served as some kind of adapter for 40mm slip-on filters. By the way, such filters and caps are more typical for post war West Germany (BW, Lifa, Schneider). Can it be the indication that the faked Sonnars were produced in West Germany?
One more observation - this Sonnar is perfectly adjusted for use with Contax camera. I am not sure if this is true for Leica 58 f1.5 Sonnars.
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Luiz Paracampo Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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Luiz Paracampo Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
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Posted - Sep 18 2017 : 8:19:42 PM
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Dear Alti, Unless a new thread should be appied on Contax (or Kiev) it will be impossible focus correctly
and a new discover Nikon lenthread are the same as Contax Kiev. see http://zeisscamera.com/articles_cnrfdr.shtml
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Sep 19 2017 : 03:30:47 AM
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Thanks, Altix, for your explanations.  As for the LTM 1,5/5,8cm, I can say that the first I have got is perfectly adjusted for Leica: I have made a roll with it and two photos are in the topic. Perfect. I don't know for the other ones.
Concerning the Hexanon, Luiz, thanks for the information. But it's too new and too expensive for me...
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Nov 26 2017 : 05:55:50 AM
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Another exotic Sonnar here, written Sonnar 1,5 5cm Nr. 1548365 on the beauty ring. This beauty ring was later painted in black. It has the same body as the s/n 1211770. LTM 39mm, but no coupling system: certainly, it was mounted from spare parts.
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112017_Sonnar 1548365 1.jpg (photo of the seller).
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Nov 26 2017 : 05:58:32 AM
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Another photo, showing the lack of coupling system. Note that this lens is perfect on my Sony A7, so correctly mounted.
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/26112017_Sonnar 1548365 4.jpg (photo of the seller)
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.
France
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Mar 03 2021 : 09:59:19 AM
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In fact, I don't see any difference compared to those of D.H. or Altix, earlier in that thread.
I have just unscrewed the mount and found 1407/9 engraved on the barrel.
 http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/332021_IMG_0349.JPG
My # 1211770 has too 1407/ engraved on the barrel, but it has an LTM mout. Certainly both belong to the batch of 1,5/6cm prototypes quoted by Thiele in his "Versuche Zeiss Ikon". Probably other lenses shown here too...
Amitiés. Jacques.
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