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Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 30 2014 : 08:00:12 AM Hello,
Would somebody have details about that Fed? http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161436010477&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Thanks. Jacques. |
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Luiz Paracampo |
Posted - Oct 02 2014 : 3:33:24 PM go to this page and compare similarities
http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/cle.htm
Regards LP
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Luiz Paracampo |
Posted - Oct 01 2014 : 8:40:52 PM there was also a telephoto designed for such cāmera
http://www.photohistory.ru/1207248188988589.html
This cāmera is a version of Leica CL and Leitz/Minolta CL but slightly greater size Regards LP |
Jacques M. |
Posted - Oct 01 2014 : 08:49:36 AM No more available. All that goes too fast for me! |
Jacques M. |
Posted - Oct 01 2014 : 03:49:08 AM Well. Now, it's the known 1,8/40mm prototype for sale: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/RAREST-LENS-for-FED-88-TTL-prototype-Factory-mining-HELIOS-113-1-8-40-0000001-/161438129514?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item2596765d6a
Th s/n 1, and perhaps the only ever made... It could be perfect on a Leica CL/Minolta CLE with its M mount. So, if all that is genuine, it would mean that this Fed 88 had a M mount...
Such a lens is already on DVD: http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/collect/fed/fed.htm with the date 1980.
Jacques. |
Guido |
Posted - Sep 30 2014 : 2:58:38 PM Hello Alexander
Yes, I've seen the FED-670 prototype in Princelle book and one moment also remarked some analogies to this wooden FED-88. But maybe it's only a question of the year of design, because the grip on the FED-88 is a thing usually made in the 90th to now, the other wood prototype of the FED-50 offered by the same seller should be made in the early 80th, if it's a real design prototype. And this is why I'm not very convinced of the authenticity of both of the wood models from this seller. If one of this is a fake (FED-50 made later for example ...) the other could also be a fake (FED-88 as a fantasie camera).
Okay, the Helios-113 40mm/1.8 was seen and sold as a prototype, it has a Leica M bajonett mount. But the FED-670 (for 120 film rolls) was also equipped with a lens called Helios-113, but this was a 65mm/5.6 and has an other circle of view and an other mount, I think. This looks a kind of strange for me.
I'm shure FED had a lot more projects as we know today and they are not as good documented as from other factories (like KMZ i.e.). So I would not say the FED-88 wood prototype must be a fake, but we had to think of this because of the other wood prototype of the really existing FED-50 wood prototype.
BTW @Jacques: I don't know if the buyer exactly knew what he was doing, but I hope so. I saw so much strange things on eBay ... ;->
Best wishes - Guido
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Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 30 2014 : 2:26:51 PM Thanks, Alexander. But the Helios 113 was a 5,6/65mm for the Fed 670, not a 1,8/40mm. Two lenses with the same name...? And what about the body?
The dummy kit was sold. I suppose the buyer knew exactly what he was doing!
Jacques.
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AlexanderK |
Posted - Sep 30 2014 : 1:26:55 PM Hello, lens from the first one "Helios-113" was really produced as prototype for FED-670:
http://www.photohistory.ru/1207248187984132.html
and was seen on auctions in 2008/09:
http://collectiblend.com/Lenses/FED/40mm-f1.8-Helios-113-%28BM,-Leica-M,-prototype%29.html
Regards, Alexander |
Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 30 2014 : 08:35:11 AM Merci, Guido. I have just had a short research on the net. Nothing... Curious... |
Guido |
Posted - Sep 30 2014 : 08:23:13 AM Bonjour Jacques
I don't know nothing about this camera made from wood but the same seller have an other one for sale, a FED 50:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/RAREST-Wood-model-FED-50-prototype-Factory-mining-/201181142710?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed7549eb6
But this one was produced from 1986 to 1990.
Best wishes - Guido
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