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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo

Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Feb 19 2009 :  9:15:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
an interesting picture at
http://www.g-root.jp/basement/camera/zenit_8M.jpg
where can be seen a rebadged Smena.
LP
BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  03:08:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmmmmm !!???
first of all ...good news to see you again Luiz ...
So...a KMZ logo on a LOMO camera ???
isn't it an incongruity , in that time ???
may be a new fantasy rebadging like black, blue labels etc...easy to make whith silk screen for the inexperienced collector's market ?

that's just my opinion ...anyway Iwill be happy id I found such camera.
Alain
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Don Gillette
dgillette4
USA
202 Posts
Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  09:58:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting but I think the lense lable is a dead giveaway. Not a hard thing to do as Alain says with silk screen. Don

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  4:53:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Alain by the wellcome.
I think there are many other means to do such sticks.
The simple Paint program built into any Windows program is the easiest way to do such kind of alterations.
Regards
LP
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Feb 23 2009 :  05:51:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way...I am on the way to ssemble a "Amator" and "AmatorII" front plate on old lubitel 1 and 2.
It will be hard to see if originals or not ( I used the same handcraft than the forged "Sputnick II" I bought in Moscow photo website , in the past.... isn't it Bill ?)
will show you soon pictures.
Alain
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Feb 25 2009 :  09:26:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi Luiz....
do you remember I still hunt for zenit "Pro" from Brazil ?

in fact not hurry
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 25 2009 :  8:22:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello Allain
Inthe mean time I did see two 12 PRO in used shops.
They are asking around 150 Reais which is around 60 dollars.
I do nor know they are working properly. At a distance they are great!. Shipping costs are too high from Brazil (several times the cost you would pay for the camera. what can I do?
Best Regards
LP
Note: the 12 pro are different one is forged "industria Brasileira" the other don't. One have Helios 6 from Jupiter the other Helios 5 from Vilieika
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
1027 Posts
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Posted - Feb 25 2009 :  9:30:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mermoz37

I used the same handcraft than the forged "Sputnick II" I bought in Moscow photo website , in the past.... isn't it Bill ?




Hi Alain,
I'm thinking that no more Sputnik-2 cameras have been offered since ours. So, maybe I will go back and look at my notes and the camera itself. Sometimes when I havn't looked at something like that for a long time, then I get another idea when I go back to look! But ... so far, I think they are fakes!

Regards, Bill

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 26 2009 :  11:11:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In order to mantain a "suspense" What about a Sputnik 3? A Stereo-Panorama whith three shutters like some old stereo cameras?
LP
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
1027 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 26 2009 :  1:05:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Or ... how about a Sputnik-4DC .... a Sputnik with stereo-panorama capabilities, three shutters, but with a digital sensor ("DC" stands for "Digital Camera"). Luiz ... please make us one!

Regards, Bill

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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  11:20:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dear Luiz...
thanks for good hunt !!
I am interested by both cameras.
what will be shipping cost to France now ?
Alain
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  11:43:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bill...
remember there was a third one sold by Moscow foto....
so to be sure it is a fake : just unscrew the front lenses ring and remove the front lense plate : you will see it is Magnesiuml printing plate (as my friends did it in the past )
I use the same process for my "AMATOR" just after saw it on ebay and duplicated in ADobe (it was a hard work because no exact letters model like that)
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/DSC_0045.jpg


and here is original:





http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/Amatör.JPG



hmmmm.... just at time I see I have to change screws...( these I used are for Amator II !!!!

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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  12:05:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Luiz...
here is another zenit pro:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-89540477-maquina-fotografica-zenit-12-pro-_JM

please tell me your opinion ...
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  3:30:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Alain:
1)I went to one of the shops having the camera the camera is istill there but the shop is closing. the owner died and his son dicided to close. he now according tho his neighbour eventually goes there, but I will try to get it. the camera is apparently perfect but now I noted that it lacks the synchro front contact -No marter to be repaired.-
2 the second from Mercado livre is very cheap but seems horrible!
I believe that can be also done a cosmeticas via the marvelous a silicone. If you wasnt I can boy it for you.
Be quick in your answer.
Regards
LP
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  3:39:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Or ... how about a Sputnik-4DC .... a Sputnik with stereo-panorama capabilities, three shutters, but with a digital sensor ("DC" stands for "Digital Camera"). Luiz ... please make us one!
Regards, Bill
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Easy Bill!
It is already done!
While I am not showing it, be delighted with such wonderful beasts!
See further....
LP
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  3:43:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/s1.JPG

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  3:44:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/s2.JPG

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  3:45:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/s3.JPG

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  3:49:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/s4.JPG

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  3:59:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The new Sputnik has scan picture capabilities Interchangeable digital back and basts two original T22 75mm lenses for stereo and a Huge Russar 72mm for 56 x 184mm panorama pictures.
While I do not show this secret camera what about a Smena Klassik?

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/SmenaDb.JPG

and the Smena Logo



http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/sso_1975_liap_smena_001.jpg

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  4:22:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And what about the digital Smena X with Lomo Zoom lens?

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/smenalx.JPG

Regards
LP

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  4:28:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I forgot to say that the wonderful stereo beasts are from the collection of my friend Lew Steinfeld who owns around 3000 cameras of all types.
And a Notice: My friend Karl Tonini is doing a Museum in the State of Para to which I am contributing. There will be exposed some exotic French cameras - Like a giant Mamooth and a Giroux Daguerreotype camera. As soon it will be completeded I will show some magificent equipment. Around 1500 cameras for the begining.
LP
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Feb 27 2009 :  4:29:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok this is getting out of hand, I think I'm gonna get sued!
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Mar 01 2009 :  09:39:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Luiz ...please use my email for trading these zenit (berryalain37@yahoo.fr)....
So if the cameras are functionnals I am OK ,in spite of horrible .
equal for the lack flash synchro contact (I will replace easily here)cosmetics .
let's go and buy them now.
after what you will tell me how I must pay to you including shipping fees (may be I will pay by paypal ?...or bank transfer)
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Mar 02 2009 :  9:20:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok alain I will do!
Regards
LP
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