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Jacques M.
France
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 Posted - Nov 01 2009 : 12:18:42 PM
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Hello,
I have just bought a Zorki 1.
Certainly some of you saw it on eBay: a curious one, as it has metallic shutters (like the Kiev 80, but horizontal translation) and strap lugs: all that is unknown on these cameras.
A 1d, as it seems: the stripes are around the lens too. Serial number: 376696. Certainly a very early 1d.
If you have any idea... It looks like the Zorki 1S in Nathan's site; but that one doesn't have metallic shutters!
Pictures as soon as it arrives. Eager to receive it and to try to take photos with it!
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
1027 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Nov 01 2009 : 7:32:05 PM
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Hi Jacques,
Pretty cool to see a metal shutter in a Zorki.
Maybe this is a custom built piece, made by an owner from different parts ... custom made shutter for longer lasting use ... different parts like a Zorki-1 top and Zorki-2C body shell, etc.
A super Zorki! Nice camera to have and we will look forward to some photos.
Regards, Bill
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
Posted - Nov 02 2009 : 07:49:23 AM
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Hi Jacques,
In fact , I have a DIY metal shutter curtain Zorki-1. I did the job with metal curtains I saved from a broken Kiev 88.
A very strange Zorki 1 that I saw was a one with a removeable back. It looked like a well made camera. Since I never saw a camera like that before, I let it go.
Cheers,
Zhang |
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts |
Posted - Nov 02 2009 : 10:09:22 AM
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Hi Zhang,
Very interested by your Zorki with Kiev curtains. Does it really work? Is it reliable?
I saw too a Zorki 1 with a removable back at least three years ago. It stayed a long time at the seller's (Alex, if I remember correctly) before it was sold. For the same reason as yours, I didn't buy it. Silly ass...
It was very well made, like a Zorki 3, of course. Probably a trial of the factory?
Perhaps somebody would have news of this (these) camera(s)?
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts |
Posted - Nov 02 2009 : 11:51:46 AM
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Hi Jacques ,
a picture please .... |
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
Posted - Nov 03 2009 : 01:32:26 AM
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Hi Jacques,
Yes, it works, and seems reliable. :) But the accuracy of speed is questionable. I feel that the metal curtains can't reach 1/1000s or even 1/500s speed.I did it for fun.so that I did not test it seriously.
Cheers,
Zhang |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Nov 03 2009 : 09:20:29 AM
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I guess the question begs - the metal curtains are usually much thicker - is there enough space on the curtain spool to accommodate for those? Also they do not get stuck on the curtain rails? ...and pictures please, anyone if you have those!
Thanks,
Vlad. |
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts |
Posted - Nov 03 2009 : 3:26:34 PM
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I think too that metallic curtains are heavier, so the speeds are certainly slower. Did you already take photos with your special Zorki 1, Zhang?
I agree with Vlad: it's certainly a real job to change the curtains and to accommodate the entire mechanism.
Sorry for the pictures of my Zorki, Alain: in two or three weeks, I think. But if Zhang can do that before...
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
Posted - Nov 04 2009 : 05:18:03 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jacques M.
I think too that metallic curtains are heavier, so the speeds are certainly slower. Did you already take photos with your special Zorki 1, Zhang?
I agree with Vlad: it's certainly a real job to change the curtains and to accommodate the entire mechanism.
Sorry for the pictures of my Zorki, Alain: in two or three weeks, I think. But if Zhang can do that before...
Amitiés. Jacques.
Jacques,
Sorry, I thought Vlad asked for your cameras photos. I can take an image of mine for sure. The metal curtains don't look like thicker, heavyier maybe.
Kind Regards,
zhang |
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts |
Posted - Nov 05 2009 : 05:07:21 AM
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Hi Zhang!
No problem for your pictures!
I will put mine when my camera is arrived: we will compare and look for the differences, if there are any. 
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
Posted - Nov 05 2009 : 08:54:26 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jacques M.
Hi Zhang!
No problem for your pictures!
I will put mine when my camera is arrived: we will compare and look for the differences, if there are any.
Amitiés. Jacques.
Hi Jacques,
I am sure there is difference. Yours should look much nicer.
here is an image FYI.
Cheers,
zhang
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/5112009_IMG_8827.JPG
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts |
Posted - Nov 05 2009 : 4:29:26 PM
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Thanks for this very interesting picture, Zhang!
Really always amazed by the work to fit the shutters!
I promise I will put some pictures as soon as I have mine and we will compare!
Amitiés. Jacques.
(Your Zorki looks like a 1f Fed: same vulcanite and of course triangular tip of the rangefinder. Probably an early 1b with four digits?)
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts |
Posted - Nov 06 2009 : 01:25:18 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jacques M.
Thanks for this very interesting picture, Zhang!
Really always amazed by the work to fit the shutters!
I promise I will put some pictures as soon as I have mine and we will compare!
Amitiés. Jacques.
(Your Zorki looks like a 1f Fed: same vulcanite and of course triangular tip of the rangefinder. Probably an early 1b with four digits?)
You have sharp eyes! It is a Fed-1, the 1st type after WW II. The s/n is 237346. |
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zhang
Kievuser
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts |
Posted - Dec 08 2009 : 07:22:21 AM
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Hello!
Some weeks ago, I had promised to post a picture of my "curiuos" Zorki 1.
In fact, it is no more curious as Zhang's one: the shutters seem to be exactly the same. As for me, it's the first time I see such shutters. Congrats once more to Zhang who made it by himself...
It seems to work without problem, with a noise possibly a bit louder for the slow speeds. I didn't check the accuracy of speeds, but it seems there is no real difference between this one and a plain one.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/8122009_fed 1 Kiev 88.jpg
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts |
Posted - Dec 08 2009 : 07:57:44 AM
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Hi Zhang!
I hadn't seen your last post...
If we play the game, your "Fed" would be:
- a Fed 1f by the cover and the speeds,
- a Zorki 2S for the body, but with a removed selftimer,
- always a 2S for the winding button,
- a Zorki 1 (?) or else for the mechanism, if we consider the release button,
- a Fed 1f or g by the lens (the easiest  )
Your Seagull is quite strange. I had always seen such a camera (where?) but what the hell is this accessory clip on the sunshade? You have an idea?
Amitiés. Jacques.
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zhang
Kievuser
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Posted - Dec 08 2009 : 10:54:04 PM
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Originally posted by Jacques M.
Hi Zhang!
I hadn't seen your last post...
If we play the game, your "Fed" would be:
- a Fed 1f by the cover and the speeds,
- a Zorki 2S for the body, but with a removed selftimer,
- always a 2S for the winding button,
- a Zorki 1 (?) or else for the mechanism, if we consider the release button,
- a Fed 1f or g by the lens (the easiest )
Your Seagull is quite strange. I had always seen such a camera (where?) but what the hell is this accessory clip on the sunshade? You have an idea?
Amitiés. Jacques.
Hi Jacques,
Many thanks for your image of the curious Zorki. It is quite possible that the owner leant the trick from me as I made mine many years ago. I also tried to oversome the shortcomings of a Zorki-1 with a Z-2C's body case with strap lugs, and a bigger winding nob, etc...and the Seagull is actually a Zorki-6 with a Seagull name-plate. Lens shade of a Seagull-4 TLR rest well on a I-50 or I-22.It is much fun to mod a Soviet camera to my satisfaction.
Cheers,
Zhang |
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