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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
837 Posts
My Collection
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 Posted - Nov 05 2009 : 4:24:11 PM
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Hello,
a nice latin engraved Leningrad arrived here today. I have never seen one before and have some questions to it.
The speed dial looks different from any speed dial I have seen on russian cameras, the 1/60 and 1/8 second are more engraved to the middle of the dial. Is it normal for the version with the modernized times?
The film marker and gost marker plate on the rewind dial is completly made of plastic. I have never seen such a marker plate before.
And the little plate with the two holes above the front range finder window has a groove.
By the way, it works very good and there was a roll of film in it :-)
The lens is not the original one, it came with a late black Industar 50 but the J-8 looks better :-)
Here are some pics:
Ulrich
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zhang
Kievuser
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Posted - Nov 06 2009 : 02:01:29 AM
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Hi Ulrich,
I think it is a very rare camera. It is also in excellent condition. It is a gem. Congratulations!
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David Tomlinson
RCCCUK
United Kingdom
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Posted - Nov 06 2009 : 02:31:33 AM
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Hi Ulrich,
This speed dial was used on later versions of the Leningrad, once the new shutter speed sequence using 1/60 had been adopted. The earlier one using 1/50 has the more traditional alignment. Of the four Leningrad cameras that I have in my collection, ranging from 001878 to 650334, none have the groove in the RF adjuster cap. Three of my cameras have a film speed selector like yours. Also, the film speed reminder disk appears to be aluminium in all my cameras.
An interesting find.
David
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Richard Nuttall
Poolhall
United Kingdom
163 Posts |
Posted - Nov 06 2009 : 09:07:27 AM
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Nice find Ulrich! Many congratulations
Samsung GX-10,too many Russian Lenses, A lot of Zenits, an Almaz 103 a few Yashica,and finally a Minox35GT |
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Michel
France
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Posted - Nov 06 2009 : 11:32:52 AM
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Hi Ulrich,
I join to my message a (very bad desktop made) photo of the rewind knob of my Latin Leningrad n° 61 2842.
As you can see, the rewind knob is slightly different from yours.
By the way, my Cyrillic Leningrad n° 62 2283 has the same knob.
(But none of them has the "groove"… )
So, nice find.
Congratulations
Michel
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/6112009_Len. latin.jpg
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
837 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Nov 07 2009 : 02:03:46 AM
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Thanks for all the comments :-)
Princelle says that the latin Leningrad is rare. Does anybody know how often it was built?
Ulrich
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Michel
France
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts |
Posted - Nov 07 2009 : 04:44:02 AM
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thanks Michel...
as far I can check my collection ...only Police camera is missing ...It is not very pleasant to mention it to me, in the morning of beautiful day!!!
This day is going to be wretched unless a colleague proposes me this camera on Ebay |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Nov 07 2009 : 04:54:40 AM
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Sorry for you, my friend…
Go on digging on eB…
(But… eh… oh… do you pretend to have all the stuff?) |
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts |
Posted - Nov 07 2009 : 05:09:52 AM
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all stuff ? yes but I think I must check motor button groves
anyway congratulation too for Ulrich hunter's talent  |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Nov 07 2009 : 05:55:46 AM
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Yeaahh…
… and the viewfinder adjusting plate WITH grooves…
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
837 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 3:33:16 PM
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The grooved plate above the rangefinder adjustment seems not to be original ... I have tried to remove it (it sits very tight) and I found out that it was glued on :-( So somebody has lost the original plate and has taken another one that just coveres the hole. It does not have the two "ears" to lock it. But I have some spare Leningrad parts so I will restore it to it's original state, I think.
Ulrich
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Michel
France
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 4:15:04 PM
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Hi Ulrich,
So, the viewfinder adjustment grooved plate is not original on your Latin Len.
Can we think that some "unusual" Kievs have suffered such transformations ?
(OK, I am out of subject, but the question remains…)
Sincerly,
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
837 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 4:47:46 PM
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Michel,
that's a good question. I have seen a Kiev just a few days before where the black paint is missing :-))) I think this is a very rare transitional model when the sowjets did not have enough black paint but the 5 years plan must be done *g*
Ok I'm just kidding. But if you think of the Kiev III/Kiev 4 models I am not very sure if they are real. I own such a Kiev III with a Kiev 4 lightmeter. I don't know if a good worker has just done a good job to repair a broken Kiev III lightmeter in a country where it maybe was not easy to get parts for a regular repair. Or if they are real samples between the model change. But how it is, they are interesting and they fill up the collector's vitrine :-)
On the other hand the KIIV 4 models are real to me. We know of about more than a dozen KIIV III models of the year, and in 1958 the Arsenal factory has made also Kiev 4 models. So it was a good idea of them to make some Kiev 4 with Ukrainian logo on the front plate. I don't think that the rare KIIV 3 front plates were used to make up a KIIV 4 model, for that the KIIV III war too rare.
Let's see what surprises the future has to us.
Ulrich
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