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Ulrich W.
uwittehh

Germany
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 :  3:25:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello,

today a nice Jupiter 8 arrives here. It has the "ears" on the aperture ring and was built in 1950. I've searched some ebay auctions for old Kievs and have found out that it must be one of the first Jupiter 8 lenses that is engraved as Jupiter instead of Zorki.

I have found 2 auctions from ua-project where he sells old Kievs, both of them have Zorki lenses with serials 5003658 and 5004891.
My Jupiter 8 has serial number 5006092 so it is very close to the both, only 120 numbers away. It has the KMZ sign and I think about it if it could be that these lenses contain Zeiss glasses like the ones from 1947 to 1949. Does anybody know when they ran out of stock abd began to build their own glasses?

Ulrich



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zhang
Kievuser
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 :  11:12:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by uwittehh

Hello,

today a nice Jupiter 8 arrives here. It has the "ears" on the aperture ring and was built in 1950. I've searched some ebay auctions for old Kievs and have found out that it must be one of the first Jupiter 8 lenses that is engraved as Jupiter instead of Zorki.

I have found 2 auctions from ua-project where he sells old Kievs, both of them have Zorki lenses with serials 5003658 and 5004891.
My Jupiter 8 has serial number 5006092 so it is very close to the both, only 120 numbers away. It has the KMZ sign and I think about it if it could be that these lenses contain Zeiss glasses like the ones from 1947 to 1949. Does anybody know when they ran out of stock abd began to build their own glasses?

Ulrich



http://fotos.cconin.de



Hello Ulrich,

The latest known s/n of ZK 50/2 is 5005206, and according to a Chinese collector, the earliest Jupiter-8 has a s/n 5005444.The two numbers are very close, and the last ZK should be somewhere in between.


"我收藏的图片中,有只J-8的编号是:5005444。带小耳朵。"

Kind Regards,

Zhang
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - Dec 17 2009 :  2:01:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Zhang,

so they have mixed the engraving ZK and Jupiter a small time.
I think, I will disassemble my lens by the time to see if it contains a number on the inner parts :-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Feb 02 2010 :  08:27:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hello!

Did you dismount your lens Ulrich? What is the inside like?

I will receive in some days a Jupiter 8 # 5005386 (with two "ears) mounted on a Kiev II # 506446. A bit older than the Jup serial number 5005444...

The limits between ZK and Jupiter 8 are more and more narrow!

Amiti閟. Jacques.

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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - Feb 19 2010 :  5:12:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jacques ,

no, I havn't dismantled it until today... Maybe the next days/weeks :-)

Ulrich

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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - Apr 24 2010 :  11:07:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jacques,

I have dismounted it today. It looks like a normal J-8 inside, no more Zeiss numbers to see.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Apr 24 2010 :  11:26:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Ulrich,

I had dismantled too my Jup 8 # 5005386 with ears.
Nothing at the back, like for yours.

Amiti閟. Jacques.
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