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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo

Brazil
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Posted - Mar 11 2010 :  7:15:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
An extremely rare lens a white face /Large front Russar 20mm for Kiev 4 etc. Cannot be appled on Kiev 5.
It locks in the inner bayonet and has no focusing capabilities.
Note that there are another unamed model without the outer ring.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1132010_russarkiev.JPG

Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  12:00:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the same lens as well. What I found interesting is that the rear cap fits the length of the lens cell itself and has the "KNEB" logo molded in it..

Serial #02749

Steve
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  12:01:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the same lens as well. What I found interesting is that the rear cap fits the length of the lens cell itself and has the "KNEB" logo molded in it..

Serial #02749

Steve
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  08:39:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
luiz, bull...
does the lens give you infinity focus ?
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  12:10:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi friends....
what is your opinion about that ?




http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1232010_IMG_6012.JPG

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  4:40:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is a different version with focus scale.
There is another one (Black)in fixed focus.
I will try to find.
Regards
LP
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  4:43:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point, Alain.

Normally most lenses contain a Depth Of Field Scale above the aperture . That way one can use the hyperfocal focusing system to achieve the proper f-stop. This lens however does not offer a DOF scale.

Being a 20mm, I think it safe to say that a higher f-stop would get you sharp images to infinity.

Doesn't the 35mm have the DOF Scale above the aperture control?

Screwy system....prototype lens.

Steve
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  4:50:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This other one, at

http://www.ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=28&ParentID=2&ContentID=646&Item=Russar+MR%2D2+for+Kiev

Has an external removable ring with etched scale that substitutes original Kiev's inner scale. you reach 5cm closest distance.
regards
LP
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  4:55:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an email sent to me from Marc James Small that added a couple interesting points concerning this lens. It was sent back in 2004 when I came across the lens on eBay. At that time we were members of the Russian Cameras Group on Yahoo. I contacted the group because I never heard of this lens and questioned its design.

I will locate his reply and see about posting here.

Steve
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Mar 13 2010 :  09:06:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ho ho.... friends :
please stop !
my picture is somethoing like a joke ...
explanations (and apologies please )
what you see there is a test I made months ago . I cut a bad Jupiter kiev lens , take off the baļonnet (shortest as possible) , then take a 39mm zenit B screw mount and fit a normal 39mm Russar.
the result is unuseable because I cannot make as compact as necessary to take infinity picture focus (only macro).
Here is dismantle assembly :
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Mar 13 2010 :  09:08:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
woops... !


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1332010_IMG_6014.JPG

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