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Niko80
Austria
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Posted - Nov 06 2012 :  8:15:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello!

Has any of you ever encountered handmade engravings on prewar FEDs?

I have a FED1e which has engravings (rather scratches) on top and bottom plate that look like HB.

Didn't pay much attention to them (they just bothered me), but then I remembered I also have a FED 50mm macro lenswith an engraving saying B.H. on its side. Much finer made than the one on the camera.
Do you think this is just a coincidence (lens and camera come from completely different sources) or are these letters are a general abbreviation for something?

What could HB or BH mean?

I have seen simillar very coarse engravings on wartime Leicas that are supposed to have been used in the military, e.g. by War correspondents.
See here for example:
http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?f=popup&id=2408845&_ssl=off#2408844

Regards,
Christian

Edited by - Niko80 on Nov 06 2012 8:19:08 PM

Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts
Posted - Nov 06 2012 :  10:20:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Christian,
I have never seen such engraving on FEDs and it seems for me to be an accession number or something similar.
On my two different FED 50mm macro lenses there are also no handmade engravings.
So I think this engraving comes not from FED-factory directly.

Regards, Alexander
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Martti Muda
fotomuda
Estonia
155 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Nov 07 2012 :  01:29:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit fotomuda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello!
I do not remember, but I think I have one FED lens with HB.
I have to find it.
But I am not sure.


Martti
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts
Posted - Nov 07 2012 :  04:14:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hi Christian,

I have nothing like that.
Just what looks like a cyrillic "z" on a macro lens...
I think too that the inscription was not made at the factory.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Niko80
Austria
174 Posts
Posted - Nov 07 2012 :  7:21:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you!

It would be interesting to see more engravings of this sort.

Clearly they were not made by the factory but by the owner, the question is if it's simply personal initials or if it has a more general meaning (government, military).

Here are pictures of what I have:

FED1e No. 174186






The one on the bottom plate is better, It seems to read Hb :





FED 50mm Macro Lens No. 13923






This lens is from AlexanderK, as far as I recall you even mentioned the engraving when I bought it from you.

Regards,
Christian
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Jacques M.
France
2604 Posts
Posted - Nov 08 2012 :  03:17:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the initials of an owner. I have (or had?) a camera with the personal US number of the precedent owner. When the marks come from repairs, I think they are inside the body or the lens.
Anyway, an interesting Fed 1e with the speed dial of Fed-Zorki...

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Niko80
Austria
174 Posts
Posted - Nov 12 2012 :  4:23:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, probably.

The cyrillic Hb on the camera translates to Hb whereas the BH on the lens translates to VH.

So the engrvings are most likely not related.
Still I'd be interested to see the engraving on Martti's lens.

Regards,
Christian
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David Tomlinson
RCCCUK
United Kingdom
208 Posts
Posted - Nov 13 2012 :  02:51:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry Christian,

The cyrillic Hb on the camera translates to Nb and the BH on the lens to VN. I am sure that these scratched letters relate to the owners and not to any part of the manufacturing or servicing of the items.

David.
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Niko80
Austria
174 Posts
Posted - Nov 13 2012 :  2:12:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Certainly David, my mistake. Of course the H translates to N.

Regards,
Christian

Edited by - Niko80 on Nov 13 2012 2:15:28 PM
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