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Vladislav Kern
Vlad

USA
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Posted - Aug 23 2014 :  12:02:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey all, I need some help here.

A friend of mine got this camera which I can't quite authenticate.
And here's what he has. According to 1200 Cameras book Start-2 was made 1962 and the serial # here is from 1960 - 6000006, also it's supposed to have the selenium meter inside the pentaprism with 2 contacts which is also absent. Also I the lens is not supposed to have the jumping aperture button anymore. Opinions? Here's the camera:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2282014_start2-1.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2282014_start2-2.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2282014_start2-3.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2382014_start2-4.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2382014_start2-5.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2382014_start2-6.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2382014_start2-7.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2382014_start2-8.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2382014_start2-9.jpeg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2382014_start2-10.jpeg


Here's the Start-2 picture in JLP which is serial #6200005:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2282014_Start-mod-2.jpg

Cheers,
Vlad.
Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Aug 23 2014 :  11:10:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello
Very little o say. The lens obviously is out of question, once original Sport 2 can receive both, the old and new types.
The camera number is also intriguing.
The solution to know it is a fake or not is to access the internal face of the script "START-2" and microscopically see the similaritiies to the other engravings taken as original ones as X, M.
Note the cāmera number could also be a fake.
Number and name seems to me with a very light engravings.
but KMZ did several modifications and diferente prototypes before a new model be decided

Regards
LP
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
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Posted - Aug 25 2014 :  09:32:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thank you Luiz for your opinion, we will also check the lens mount to see if there is a mechanism for jumping diaphragm, we at least need to find some corresponding feature described for Start-2. Otherwise it's just a regular Start with a different engraving... If it's no different from Start-1 then I don't see the point of this camera

Best regards,
Vlad.
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
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Posted - Aug 29 2014 :  10:37:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
After examining it more, we came to a conclusion that it's a fake. Besides the engraving on logo and serial # the camera does not exhibit any of the Start-2 characteristics mentioned in the literature, and is identical to a 1961-1962 Start-1. BTW if anyone wants to buy this one for fun the owner is open for offers

Cheers,
Vlad
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