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xya
France
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Posted - Oct 31 2016 :  2:23:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
out of budget for most of us: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/KMZ-Krasnogorsk-GOI-FS-2-Fotogewehr-1941-GOI-4-5-30-cm-N-1378-FED-1d-/272421856582

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Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Oct 31 2016 :  3:17:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm, is it original ? Box looks like metal box for Fotoniper from 80's.
Why Spiegelkasten has number 1378 ? Let's assume they started numeration from 1001. It means at least 378 similar items should have been produced.

Edited by - Alfa2 on Oct 31 2016 3:18:10 PM
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xya
France
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Posted - Oct 31 2016 :  4:28:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the seller sells also fotosniper equipment, which is not expensive http://www.ebay.fr/itm/KMZ-Fotogewehr-FS-12-Sniper-1989-Zenit-12S-TAIR-3S-4-5-300-/272324330664 the boxes of these are different. but he does not claim that this box is original. he says that the mirror box (spiegelkasten) and the lens have matching numbers.

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Edited by - xya on Oct 31 2016 4:29:14 PM
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Oct 31 2016 :  4:55:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I supposed it was genuine when I put 1€ on it. And I was the first owner of this GOI FS-2, for only three quarters of an hour, alas.

BTW, I don't see why this one could be a fake... But perhaps one of us got it and will tell more: I hope so!

Jacques.
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts
Posted - Nov 01 2016 :  1:44:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly such camera Nr.1364 in exactly such bag was sold in 2012 on WestLicht for EUR 40.800,- (start price EUR 12.000,-).

Regards, Alexander
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Nov 01 2016 :  2:59:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Interesting about the difference of price. Thanks, Alexander.

Concerning the s/n, all the GOI FS-2 are in the 13xx to 15xx, by Princelle. Curiously, the KMZ ones seem to have earlier s/n, though made later: 1155 for Alexander's and 1246 (cited by Princelle). Two different numberings?

Jacques.
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Nov 01 2016 :  3:27:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jacques,

difference of prices I explain with the difference of auctions WestLicht and Ebay.
The "serious" bidder don't look for any cameras on Ebay. The WestLicht camera was a gift with special engraving.

Regards, Alexander
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Nov 01 2016 :  3:47:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jacques M.


Concerning the s/n, all the GOI FS-2 are in the 13xx to 15xx, by Princelle. Curiously, the KMZ ones seem to have earlier s/n, though made later: 1155 for Alexander's and 1246 (cited by Princelle). Two different numberings?



Jacques,

I think that these two cameras (GOI and KMZ) have own numerations. GOI camera was produced till 1941 and KMZ camera in 1944/45.

Regards, Alexander
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Nov 01 2016 :  9:13:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Westlicht, November 2012


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1112016_fs2.JPG

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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Nov 02 2016 :  04:20:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sure that generally we cannot find ultra rare and well known cameras, such as the FS-2, the Fed B, etc, on eBay.
When cameras are not really known, eBay allows some good finds. Happily!

A question about these FS-2: GOI ones have the same s/n on the housing reflex and the lens. Probably a sort of definitive proof that they were appaired at the factory. Is it the same for KMZ ones? I am not sure.

Jacques.

Edited by - Jacques M. on Nov 02 2016 04:39:10 AM
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