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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Feb 27 2017 : 03:01:09 AM
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Hi Vlad, sure fake, extra made for foreign not Russian buyers. TENTO was a label for soviet techno-export and not only for photo equipment. So far as I know there was no soviet camera rebranded with this name.
Furthermore as you see, the label was glued not very carefully.
Regards, Alexander |
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Alfa2
Poland
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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
4252 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Feb 28 2017 : 1:35:03 PM
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Hi Alexander,
I did not buy the camera in USA or ebay, I had my friend buy it in Russia on regular classified ad site (avito.ru) from a regular person selling their old things, and I got it for the price of regular Zenit 11. Also regarding the glue, I have a Prinzflex, Kalimar, Diramic and Meprozenit with similar plaques that are also done very cheaply like this one and also have glue coming out from under the tag, so that's normal for exports. People on Russian forums say it may be a Polish export as there are a lot of Tento products in Poland and poster helps.. there are some doubts of course, but a chance of authenticity as well... And Alfa2 also has a Polish lead as well.
Thanks, Vlad |
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Luiz Paracampo Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Feb 28 2017 : 2:53:36 PM
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There are several items sold with similar plates Before, there were some items with Mashpriborintorg name These câmeras or rádios etc were shown in fairs etc. Regards LP |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts |
Posted - Feb 28 2017 : 3:01:52 PM
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Hi Vlad, most of soviet export binoculars were sold under the name TENTO in many countries, not only in Poland. But only binoculars, not any photo cameras. Prinzflex, Kalimar, Diramic and Meprozenit was real rebranding and you could never see these names together with the brand "Zenit", as on your camera.
It is only my opinion and I have never seen such branding neither on real cameras, nor in any books or leaflets. I would be glad of course to see any confirmation of your theory as well.
By the way, there are very many "fantasy" soviet cameras on avito. They all are being sold as rare "inheritance", unfortunately .
Regards, Alexander |
Edited by - AlexanderK on Feb 28 2017 3:12:00 PM |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts |
Posted - Feb 28 2017 : 3:07:20 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
... These câmeras or rádios etc were shown in fairs etc. ...
Luiz, Radios - yes, I have seen them as well. I would be very happy, if you could show me any catalogs with rebranded cameras "TENTO".
Regards, Alexander |
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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
4252 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Feb 28 2017 : 3:11:01 PM
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Luiz, Alexander, thank you! Yeah I have not seen one either, it would be interesting to find another item that has this exact tag on it.. that's the thing it wasn't sold as "Rare" item, I paid under $20USD for it.. go figure.. I'll keep researching.
Best regards, Vlad |
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Alfa2
Poland
349 Posts |
Posted - Mar 01 2017 : 1:05:12 PM
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In 80's and early 90's Zenit was the most popular camera in Poland. You could observe people with Zenits everywhere, at the seaside, at the lake, in old towns of Polish cities. About 70% of observed cameras on the streets were Zenits. Zenit was in almost every home in Poland. Why ? Because we had no our own camera production and Poland imported a lot of Zenits. But there were regular Zenits with latain letters "ZENIT" and no additional labels as on the camera presented above by Vlad.
Nevertheless price under 20$ and fact Vlad has bought it from a regular person selling their old things is a strong argumnet for writing: This is not fake. |
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xalmaz
Russia
37 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Mar 05 2017 : 12:16:58 PM
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It's not a fake, more similar on "kolkhoz": selfmade decorating. Like label Nikon(Canon/ORWO/Montana) cutted from paper box(or photomagazine) and glued over Zenit-label on body. Label must be well-known west brand and/or vivid colors, if on mirror even better - glows into other peoples eyes must grow rating of owner.
http://xalmaz.narod.ru |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts |
Posted - Mar 05 2017 : 1:22:53 PM
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With "fake" I meant this selfmade decorating. You can see such decorating on some cameras on Ebay.
Regards, Alexander |
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Milo Schekkerman Valkir1987
Netherlands
200 Posts |
Posted - Mar 06 2017 : 2:45:01 PM
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Rebranding (or home branding) is a common thing. Hanimex and Photo Quelle did the same with Praktica.
In the Netherlands we had Zenit E camera's with the Revueflex badge. |
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Harrie Kuijpers Hasku
Netherlands
4 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Mar 07 2017 : 07:17:16 AM
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To mr Schekkerman: Revue was the brandname from foto Quelle Germany. In the Netherlands we had also the Zenith B as Prinzflex 500 E.
Some drive oldtimers, I photograph with them. |
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts |
Posted - Mar 08 2017 : 2:57:09 PM
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We are talking not about rebranding of soviet cameras in general, but concrete about the name TENTO. Furthermore, rebrand name is never shown on cameras together with the original brand name.
Regards, Alexander |
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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
4252 Posts My Collection
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Alexander K. AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts |
Posted - Mar 08 2017 : 4:33:42 PM
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OK, Vlad, you have won , but nevertheless... This TENTO rebranding on Zenit camera seems to be very strange for me.
Regards, Alexander |
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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
4252 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Mar 08 2017 : 9:22:46 PM
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To me as well.. I'm split 50/50 regarding authenticity.. |
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Luiz Paracampo Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts My Collection
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Vladislav Kern Vlad
USA
4252 Posts My Collection
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Posted - Mar 09 2017 : 08:56:09 AM
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Luiz, I don't doubt that Tento brand existed in binoculars, just never seen the camera branded like that.. I like your idea of it being an exposition demo camera.. very possible.. who knows.. as I said i'm 50/50 about it , good arguments from both ends.
Cheers, Vlad. |
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