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Alexander K.
AlexanderK

Germany
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Posted - Mar 04 2018 :  07:20:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Extract from the German FotoQuelle catalog from 1971. The title says:

"Russian space technology is well known - like Russian camera technology.
Only from the PHOTO-QUELLE you can get these cameras of the best Russian precision technology.
Top models in the age of space travel - for you at unbelievably small PHOTO-QUELLE prices!"



http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/432018_FotoQuelle-1971.jpg


Regards, Alexander

Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Mar 05 2018 :  05:25:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can see Jupiters 9, 11, 12 sold as Revue lenses.
What engravings had they ? Jupiter or Revue ?
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Mar 05 2018 :  1:56:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Alexander! Great material! Very interesting logos on Revue 3 and 4, never encountered these particular ones in real life..

Cheers,
Vlad
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Mar 05 2018 :  2:39:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alfa2

I can see Jupiters 9, 11, 12 sold as Revue lenses.
What engravings had they ? Jupiter or Revue ?


These lenses were also sold with German M42 cameras.
Quelle as the biggest catalog-seller in Germany didn't want to confuse own customers with soviet lenses on German cameras. So it was decided to sell them under own "Revue" brand.

Regards, Alexander
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - Mar 05 2018 :  2:58:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Really nice ad! My first SLR was a Revueflex B from 1971 :-) I also havn't seen the logos of the Revue 3 and Revue 4 before. Maybe they were only faked for the catalogue? And for the lenses, I think Quelle sold them with latin engraving, "Jupiter". Foto-Porst has selled Praktica cameras under his own name in that time.

Ulrich

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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Mar 05 2018 :  3:55:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by uwittehh

I think Quelle sold them with latin engraving, "Jupiter".


You are right Ulrich, Quelle sold of course "Jupiters" with latin engraving, but offered them in catalog without name "Jupiter", but simply as different lenses for cameras Revue-3/Revue-4.
There were of course many other German ads of soviet cameras with lenses with original names, but not in Quelle-catalogs.

Regards, Alexander
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
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Posted - Mar 05 2018 :  10:58:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am not sure if it was Quelle/Revue, but I have had nameless lenses: lenses without the soviet name written, but only specs. Not hard to make by leaving the engraving undone.

Best regards,
Juhani

Edited by - cedricfan on Mar 05 2018 10:59:50 PM
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Alfa2
Poland
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Posted - Mar 06 2018 :  3:47:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have never seen Russian lens with engraving "Revue" or sth like that.

Juhani, that's great you have the lenses.
Could you please share the photo ?
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
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Posted - Mar 06 2018 :  10:40:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
First that I found


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/632018_cosmorexEM.jpg

Best regards,
Juhani

Edited by - cedricfan on Mar 06 2018 10:42:22 PM
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Dmitry
Svetopisez
Russia
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Posted - Mar 08 2018 :  1:33:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The pics of real Revue-4 (not mine) can be seen here https://cloud.mail.ru/public/9XrS/rniTArZQh
The Revue-4 with different logo is on avito.ru right now
https://www.avito.ru/kaliningrad/fototehnika/redkiy_apparat_revue-4_fed-4_na_eksport_-_sssr_1113125042
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Elmar Lang
Italy
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Posted - Mar 09 2018 :  03:43:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very interesting.

From the '60s, Italy (my country), was a strong importer of USSR made cameras, through a company associated to Olivetti (once a famous maker of typewriting and calculating machines), being part of the export agreement with the USSR, receiving part of the balance, with cameras and optics.

Earlier, the company was known as "F.O.S. - Foto Ottica Sovietica" (Soviet Photo-Optics), then, Antares and Atemsa.

From the late '60s until the mid-'70s, our photo magazines where usually presenting detailed advertisements, stressing the extremely favourable prices with extra-discounts for workers, peasants and students. The importers, als organized a well-distributed network of repair and maintenance laboratories.

It still happens to see Soviet cameras bearing the lithographed metal, round escutcheon with a red star and the achronym "F.O.S.".

Recently, I've found a fine, illustrated catalogue of Atemsa: in this later period (1975-'79), the firm was also importer of cameras and lenses made in the DDR, once imported by "Fotoexakta" of Turin.

In my country, USSR/DDR-made cameras and lenses were widely diffused, especially among young people and beginners, although being often despised and accused of being ureliable and prone to defects and various problems (part of this opinion, perhaps due to our "side" in the so-called Cold War).

My first "serious" camera, was a Kiev-4A, bought back in 1975, when I was 16 years old, being very similar to my grandfather's Contax-II, with which, under his guidance, I've learnt the "fundamentals" of practical photography (by the way, my Kiev still works flawlessly, together with the now mine, 1937-made Contax).

In the early '80s, until 1992, a lot of USSR-made photo-optics arrived in Italy via-emigrées and Russian tourists, being available at prices that were a minor fraction of the pieces of regular import.

The last importers, were the "Pentacon Italia" and "Exakta Italia" of Genoa, later united under the brand "Investimenti Cattaneo" These three companies, owned by the Cattaneo family of Genoa, once importers (from before WW2 and until 1979) of Leitz cameras.

In my country, USSR-made cameras and lenses, never changed their name; only, the lenses made by Carl Zeiss, Jena in the GDR, when officially imported, were signed "aus Jena" only.

I think that the history of how this material was exported to the non-socialist countries, could be an interesting sector of research.

Best wishes,

E.L.



Edited by - Elmar Lang on Mar 09 2018 03:50:43 AM
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
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Posted - Mar 09 2018 :  09:56:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Pretty much the same here in Finland, except that the FSU-camera importer was Soviet-owned, and DDR-importer was a "normal camera company".

Best regards,
Juhani
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Mar 09 2018 :  10:11:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great info, Elmar! Thank you for that!

quote:
Originally posted by Elmar Lang

It still happens to see Soviet cameras bearing the lithographed metal, round escutcheon with a red star and the achronym "F.O.S.".





I'm very curious to see this emblem on the Soviet camera, do you have a photo of that by any chance?

Thank you!

Vlad
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Mar 11 2018 :  06:59:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My "soviet Revue" collection:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1132018_Soviet_Revue.jpg



Regards, Alexander
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
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Posted - Mar 11 2018 :  09:53:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit cedricfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1132018_Revueflex-B.JPG

And in some cases also the case was different from original.

Best regards,
Juhani
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Mar 11 2018 :  11:54:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
WOW!! Alexander, fantastic! You have them all I believe! Congratulations! . I am still missing the straight logo FED-3 and the 135!

Cool case, Juhani! Never seen one!

Best regards,
Vlad
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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Posted - Mar 11 2018 :  5:20:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit uwittehh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Alexander, cool, I have them all except the Revue 135 Symbol. Vlad, I've that case for the Revueflex B, but it is gone. Juhani, yours looks like mine :-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Mar 12 2018 :  09:28:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

The Revue/Fed 3 and 4 are all in the wiki.
But the exception is the Revue 3 showed by Alexander in his first post. I have never seen such an inscription "alive". I doubt it really existed.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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