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Steve
Bull Halsey

USA
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Posted - Jul 07 2008 :  12:57:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can anyone tell me if the front lenscap (in my case a Zorki 50 mm F.2) and the eveready case from a Fed/Zorki has special markings indicating both names ?

Thanks,
Steve
Frank Lambert
Frankl
USA
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Posted - Jul 07 2008 :  6:18:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Steve,
I really don't know the answer but, this case is currently on Ebay and, it looks like it has both names..... Hope this helps.

Regards,
Frank
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CASE-FOR-RAREST-FED-ZORKI-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ140246090435QQihZ004QQcategoryZ30030QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  12:56:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Frank.

I took a look at the case being offered. It's nice to see that there is actually a specific case for the camera, however the one that's being offered is not in the greatest shape, especially for the price that it is being offered for.

I've seen other items offered from this seller before. All were on the high side. Even though he is offering a "Make An Offer", he has set the bar too high for what I feel it's worth.

Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. I appreciate it very much.

Take Care,
Steve
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Dayton nathandayton
USA
95 Posts
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  1:57:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As one who has been collecting this "Stuff" for a long time I will jump right in and offer some advice.

1. Any FED/Zorkii case is better than none.
2. Most Fed/Zorkiis do not have cases for numerous reasons. Most of them have been destroyed not lost.
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  4:38:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, to be honest, I have been going back and forth over this since I replied to Frank and decided to make an offer anyway.

We will see.

Steve
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  5:19:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am wondering why this FED-Zorki case has a cut-out on the front? Usually this kind of cut-out is seen on cases for cameras that have a slow speed dial, like Zorki-2 or Zorki-3. A bit strange since the only earlier camera that I know that would have that feature might be the rare FED-B! Is this case authentic?

Regards, Bill

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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  6:17:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Maybe someone used it as a case for a Leica?

VLad
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  6:48:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bill,
Hard to make a call concerning authenticity. Do you know of anyone who has one ?
I checked all my books and the net and this is the only one I've come across.

Steve
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  6:53:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vlad,
I doubt this case would have been used by a Leica owner only because cases for the Leica are plentiful.

Then again, stranger things have happened. :-)

Steve
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  7:34:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Steve,
Although I doubt that it was used for a Leica, I can't be of any help with authenticity for sure. I have never seen (that I can remember) a real FED-Zorki case. But I would say that before I noticed the cut-out for slow speeds or who was selling it, my first impression was that the case may be fake. This is because it had the look of many fake Leica cases made from Russian ones. You know, the kind that say 'Leica' on them, made for the fake Leicas. It has that "no wear" on the lens area that looks like it was darkened with polish or stain, and the texture of the leather has reappeared (which seems to happen when the old leather has been sanded down to get the original logo off ... seems like they can't get the same smooth texture back again).
Then when I noticed who the seller was and the cut-out, the three things together made me very suspicious. But, as I have said, I have never seen one before, so I'm just guessing. If I had been sure it was authentic, with no doubts, I would have just bought it when I saw it (before it was posted here).

Regards, Bill

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Dayton nathandayton
USA
95 Posts
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  8:22:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have 7 fed/zorkis 2 of which are in the original cases. There are several variations. I will take pics and post them tomorrow. Both cases have the little cutouts. The case on Ebay looks exactly the same as one of them.

One reason why you have not seen many cases is that very quickly the cases had just Zorki not FED/Zorki.

Edited by - nathandayton on Jul 08 2008 8:45:37 PM
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  8:41:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Nathan,

Why do you think they have the cut-outs? Do you think the one on Ebay is authentic?

Regards, Bill

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Dayton nathandayton
USA
95 Posts
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 :  8:54:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"Opinion" I do not have enough information to offer more than a guess! When I post more tomorrow(weather willing) I will give details on each camera. They all show minor variations so I think that all the FEd/Zorki were pre-production prototypes. Only the 1949 cameras are essentially identical. The 1949s are essentially what became the Zorki with a change of engraving. Yes I think that it is an origional case it matches one of my cases. Notice that the lens cover is for a non-collapsing lens!

Edited by - nathandayton on Jul 08 2008 8:56:33 PM
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Dayton nathandayton
USA
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Posted - Jul 09 2008 :  3:07:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
FED/Zorki 1948 #00758 The lens is a collapsable ZK 1:2 F=5 cm (sn: 02165) This is in an aluminum lens mount of poor quality.

This is the oldest camera that I have it is covered in leather and has the plate on the back.



http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz48758f.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz48758r.jpg




http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz48758t.jpg


Edited by - nathandayton on Jul 09 2008 3:48:10 PM
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Dayton nathandayton
USA
95 Posts
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Posted - Jul 09 2008 :  3:12:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Fed/Zorki #01411 with case.
Note: This camera has a 1948 ZK 1:1.5 F=5cm (sn 000520)and a crummy stamped aluminum lens cap.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz481411cf.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz481411cr.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz481411f.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz481411t.jpg


Edited by - nathandayton on Jul 09 2008 3:43:52 PM
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Dayton nathandayton
USA
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Posted - Jul 09 2008 :  3:15:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
FED/Zorki #02670 Note the replacement lens mount plate with strange SN.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz482670f.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz482670t.jpg


Edited by - nathandayton on Jul 09 2008 3:39:28 PM
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Dayton nathandayton
USA
95 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Jul 09 2008 :  3:18:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1948 FED/Zorki #04274


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz484274f.jpg






http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz484274t.jpg


Edited by - nathandayton on Jul 09 2008 3:38:11 PM
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Dayton nathandayton
USA
95 Posts
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Posted - Jul 09 2008 :  3:21:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1949 FED/Zorki #05313

I have another 1949 but can not find it right now.




http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz495313f.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz495313t.jpg


Edited by - nathandayton on Jul 09 2008 3:35:45 PM
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Dayton nathandayton
USA
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My Collection

Posted - Jul 09 2008 :  3:55:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
FED/Zorki #04737 Collapsible Zk1:2 F=5cm (sn: 003550) in poor quality Aluminum lens mount.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz484737f.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz484737t.jpg

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Dayton nathandayton
USA
95 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Jul 09 2008 :  4:12:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit nathandayton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
48 FED/Zorki #02954


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz482954cf.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz482954cr.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz482954f.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/fz482954t.jpg

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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
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Posted - Jul 14 2008 :  10:46:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I'm just wondering, why nobody have paid attention to Nathan's camera #00758, which is almost identical to FED-KMZ camera indeed ... The only difference I can see is different name writings on the rear plaque ...

Nathan, you possess an unique camera, my best congratulations!!!


Best Regards,
Aidas


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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Jul 14 2008 :  12:09:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Once again Aidas thanks for bring this to attention, I was looking primarily at cases here as was the topic so did not notice it that time... it is a very similar camera to what Steve (Bull Halsey) has, I believe it even has the same kind of aluminum lens, although I cannot remember the back plaque, it may have been there.. maybe Steve can chime in.

Vlad.
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts
Posted - Jul 14 2008 :  2:56:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All,

My camera does have an aluminum lens. It's a 50mm F2.0 3K Zorki.
The body #03818, the lens #4902160, but alas, it's still without a case.

I made 3 offers to the seller, one was not accepted immediately and the 2 others were allowed to expire without a reply.

The case may very well be original but there was something about it that just didn't feel right. Who knows, this may very well come nack to haunt me but for now I don't feel too bad. The seller never communicated a single word to me. My offer was quite fair given the condition of the case as well as the high shipping cost.

Either it will come back online or someone may have emailed the selller with an offer.

Steve

PS..... No plaque on the back of my camera but the seller also included the original F3.5 witn the camera. It was a nice surprise. 
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