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Vladislav Kern
Vlad

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Posted - Nov 12 2008 :  10:02:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did you guys see this one? What is this Author Certificate # on the bottom?? Seems like some kind of demo version or something like that...

http://www.molotok.ru/item481609572_gorizont_redkij_variant_panoramnogo_fotoapparata.html

Vlad.
BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  04:15:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I possess one too and saw some other.. I have no explanations for "author certificate"....which one can tell us something about ?
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  06:17:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Vlad,

we already had similar discussion in our previous Topic:

http://www.ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=685&SearchTerms=horizont

Best Regards,
Aidas
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  09:20:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I see, thanks Aidas! Somehow I've missed that post! I only remember Bill and I discussing it at some point in the past, but I don't think we came to any meaningful conclusion, only guesses... You may be right about the export markets with requirements, isn't Germany one of them? But I think it went under Revue in Germany didn't it?

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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  09:21:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vlad

What is this Author Certificate # on the bottom??


Equal to the "Patent numbers".


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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  09:24:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Zoom, I do understand what it's for, I guess my question was why it's on the bottom .. and I think Aidas provided a very good educated guess here, but what do you know about it, if anything?

Thanks,
Vlad.
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  11:29:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I suspect that the patent number was engraved on examples that were going to be displayed at trade shows in Germany or the West.

Regards, Bill

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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  11:40:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Actually I thought the same Bill, but common nature of these - Aidas and Alain both have these tells me that these may be some kind of small export production batch rather than one-offs for trade shows...
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Bill Parkinson
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  5:51:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Besides Aidas and Alain each having one, and the one on Molotok, that only makes about three ... so that's not making them very common, and I have never seen others besides the one on Molotok. I think they are rare. Maybe ten or so were made for a Photokina.

Does anyone else have one? I have seen many export and non-export type Horizont but never with these numbers.

Regards, Bill

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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Nov 13 2008 :  11:28:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bill, I think 3 known in comparison to the unknown world-wide is a lot... ..
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
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Posted - Nov 14 2008 :  02:42:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw , minimum 2 others in Prag a long time ago (6 years)
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
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Posted - Nov 14 2008 :  05:36:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit AidasCams's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I would be very happy to have one of 10 existing demanstrating cameras , but during my collecting activity I have met at least 5-7 of them ... or even more. It could be limited edition with 200-300 cameras in total, why not?

Best Regards,
Aidas

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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
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Posted - Nov 14 2008 :  06:49:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes...Why not ?
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