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jed
France
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Posted - Jan 01 2022 :  09:35:42 AM  Show Profile  Visit jed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello,

I'm currently servicing a pre war Fed Nkvd s/n 91419.

Here's what we can read on the rear of the pressure plate :

20/02/41
SW/18/1dl

To me it's probably the date of manufacture. This sounds ok to you ?


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/112022_DSCF8251.JPG


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/112022_DSCF8262.JPG

Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jan 01 2022 :  10:09:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jean!

1941 is too late for such a number. I think your camera should be of 1939, probably the september/november period. You will have a better date with the internal engraving, side of the rewind button, which gives the test date for the shutter.

You probably have a date of repair. Perhaps made outside the USSR: there is no W in cyrillic... (?)

And good news: you have a correct camera with matching numbers for the body and the lens!

Amitiés. Jacques.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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jed
France
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Posted - Jan 01 2022 :  10:17:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit jed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello Jacques,

Here's the only hand written number inside :




http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/112022_DSCF8264.JPG

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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jan 01 2022 :  10:43:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

That should be the correct date for the test.
By our wiki, the s/n 83613 was delivered the 18/01/1939 (attestat). That gives a good base of comparison, knowing that 34000 NKVD were made in 1939 (Fricke/Princelle). Sure, I was too late in my estimation.

That does not explain the date engraved on your press film...
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Alex_Rus
Russia
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Posted - Jan 01 2022 :  2:30:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have FED-NKVD №83837, hand-written date inside - 18/II (18 feb)
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jan 02 2022 :  03:43:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

As for my own cameras, when the internal numbers can be read:
- s/n 83515 : 29 XII
- s/n 84928 : 27 I (Fed S)
- s/n 90345 : 10 III
- s/n 93609 : 14 V (Fed S)
All that is coherent and matches your numbers, Jean.
BTW, it seems that the S were checked with the "ordinary" Feds, without any delay, so without more tests.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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jed
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Posted - Jan 02 2022 :  4:26:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit jed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks lots Alex and Jacques !

May I ask again something ?

Is that lens matches with the camera ?


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/212022_DSCF8282.JPG

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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
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Posted - Jan 03 2022 :  09:05:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Jed, I agree with above, the scratched writing inside must be from camera adjustments at some point in 1941. The last photo the lens is much later than the body. Your body is October 1935 and the lens is from sometime in February-March 1939.

Best regards,
Vlaq
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jed
France
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Posted - Jan 04 2022 :  05:40:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit jed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Vlad !!!!!!
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Elmar Lang
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Posted - Apr 20 2022 :  12:02:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jed

Hello,

I'm currently servicing a pre war Fed Nkvd s/n 91419.

Here's what we can read on the rear of the pressure plate :

20/02/41
SW/18/1dl

To me it's probably the date of manufacture. This sounds ok to you ?


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/112022_DSCF8262.JPG



If the engraved inscription could be "SW/18/IDL", the "IDL" could mean "Instandsetzungs-Dienst (der) Luftwaffe" or "Repair Service of the Luftwaffe", but the date is earlier than the German invasion of the USSR, unless this camera was acquired by a German unit during the German/Soviet invasion and occupation of Poland...

Only hypothesis, I need to say.

All the best,

Enzo
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