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Fred_L Posted - Apr 15 2016 : 07:40:56 AM
Hi all..
The tittle should be "one more fake or not?"
Just arrived today, needs cleaning of course.....

Fred


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Fred_L Posted - Apr 16 2016 : 5:33:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny

Thanks Fred,

sad you got cheated. The top plate is a Zorki-1de with a stamped logo. How well it was re-engraved.
Always need to see pictures without bottom plate, but sometimes there is no time, you need to be quick, otherwise someone else will buy it.
In this case another hint would have been the speed. Normally with early serials like #2796 there should always be 1/1000 speed. All others with only 1/500 should set you in alarm.

Was it known seller?



I bought it in an auction sale
price was not so high as it comes with another camera: A Fed 2 pre-series..
So it is not a problem
each time I buy a Fed/Zorki, I know it could be a fake.....


Fred
Lenny Posted - Apr 16 2016 : 5:15:53 PM
Thanks Fred,

sad you got cheated. The top plate is a Zorki-1de with a stamped logo. How well it was re-engraved.
Always need to see pictures without bottom plate, but sometimes there is no time, you need to be quick, otherwise someone else will buy it.
In this case another hint would have been the speed. Normally with early serials like #2796 there should always be 1/1000 speed. All others with only 1/500 should set you in alarm.

Was it known seller?
Jacques M. Posted - Apr 16 2016 : 2:25:01 PM
Yes, the body is probably a late 1b, not even a 1c.
Sorry for the black face of your cover!

Amitiés. Jacques.
Fred_L Posted - Apr 16 2016 : 1:22:18 PM
Hi all

So, as you can see, this one is a fake....
Maybe a nice one, but a fake....
Just have a look at the dark side of the cover....

Fred




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Lenny Posted - Apr 15 2016 : 12:05:03 PM
The left side of the top plate looks like a much later Zorki,
but on first sight the engraving looks right. Strange.
Fred_L Posted - Apr 15 2016 : 11:04:43 AM
I will remove top and bottom plates and send pictures asap...
Fred
Lenny Posted - Apr 15 2016 : 10:46:24 AM
The question is if the Zorki top plate is a fake.
To be sure if the rest is a Fed a photo without bottom plate would let us know. It could still be only a Fed vulcanite housing.
Jacques M. Posted - Apr 15 2016 : 09:05:46 AM
Hi Fred!

Yes, I fear that Alfa is right.
Vulcanite from 1b/early 1c, three screws under the rewind button, center screw half hidden under lensplate... The body looks like a 50000/60000 Fed 1b or 1c.

The lens is far more difficult to fake: collapsible 2/5cm were made by Zeiss only.

Amitiés. Jacques.
Alfa2 Posted - Apr 15 2016 : 07:51:48 AM


Regarding body:
In my opinion this is compilation of FED NKVD and FED-Zorki.



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