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| AidasCams |
Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 08:45:15 AM
Hi all,
I need your help here. After our successful collaboration in classifying of "Komsomolets" cameras, I would like to continue this job with popular TLR "Lubitel-2". Beeing very mass-produced, Lubitel-2 came to market under many exotic names and three logos GOMZ-LOOMP-LOMO.
Below you will find my initial classificator with 11 versions already. I'm pretty sure it was much more versions indeed, so our task would be to make the list as complete, as possible. Thanks in advance!
1. Common version under Cyrillic name "Ëþáèòåëü-2". Camera comes with ZT-5 shutter, speeds - 1/10s, 1/25s, 1/50s, 1/100s, 1/200s + B. GOMZ logo embossed on the top plate. Tripod thread 3/8''. Some early cameras (#000189 V.Kern) has Cyrillic markings "Made in USSR" on filter compartment's door. Different styles of name markings are known;
2. Camera identical to 1st version, but under export name "Lubitel-2" in Roman characters. Less common to find.
3. Camera identical to 2nd version, but with new shutter ZT-8, speeds - 1/15s, 1/60s, 1/125s, 1/250s + B. Very uncommon LOOMP markings on the lens frontplate (camera known: #016055). These very uncommon export cameras were produced in period 1961-1966, before LOMO name was chosen permanently.
4. Very uncommon Cyrillic version with LOOMP logotype. White markings on the black lens frontplate. 5 digits serial number with "T". Camera known: #78305-T (V.Kern), #90020-T (Molotok).
5. Camera identical to 4th version, but with LOMO logotype already. Export markings. 6 digits serial number with "T". Tripod thread still 3/8''. Cameras known: #023417-T (www), #043867-T (A.Berry), #052450-T (SovietCams).
6. Common camera identical to 3rd version, but with LOMO logo already. Tripod thread 1/4''. Bilingual markings „Made in USSR“ on the filter compartment‘s door. Different styles of name markings. Can be found with bronzed lens.
7. Camera identical to 6th version, but under export name in Roman characters. Several styles of name markings.
8. Quite uncommon export version, under name "Kalimar TLR100" (see camera #7762353). Otherwise identical to 7th version. Can be found recently in US market. Cameras known: #7762353 (SovietCams), #7876916 (eBay).
9. Very uncommon export version, under name Global-676. Released for Australia market in very smal quantities (appr. 1000 items). This camera have no any markings to identify the manufacturer, so only 6 digits serial number #000XXX and "4.5/75" on the lens frontplate. Otherwise identical to 1st version. Camera known: #000281 (eBay), #000486 (DVD Technik), #000838 (SovietCams), #001003 (eBay).
10. Very uncommon camera, under name SPUTNIK (camera known: #033164 Alain Berry). Otherwise identical to 6th version.
11. Very uncommon camera, under export name "Amator-2". Was released for Germany market in very small quantities. Otherwise identical to 1st version. Camera known: #51214432 (source: Novacon).
Vlad,
I would like to know the serial number of your Lubitel-2 LOOMP camera, if possible ...
Best Regards,
Aidas
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| AidasCams |
Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 12:07:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Aidas, I hate to say this, it would be very helpful if these classifications that you're kind enough to work on would have visual elements to them.. like photo close-ups on specific details on camera for each item that are different.. it's hard to visualize a lot of that stuff described in words, especially for a new collector... maybe I can help?
Vlad
Vlad,
thanks for your question (remark)...  I absolutely agree with you. The dry-list is always dull to study indeed. I'm waiting two cameras from the list to come as soon. Just after I get them, complete list of Lubitel-2 cameras with visual explanations will be prepared immediately.
BTW I have already changed the order of classification in my site. The new "creature" can be found here:
http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?-709374495
Regards,
Aidas
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| AidasCams |
Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 11:56:03 AM
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Originally posted by mermoz37
hi Aidas ,
do you make a difference between silk printed plate and embossed (engraved) name front plate ?
there are also black lens front rings whithout "LOOMP" engraved
Alain,
yes, I consider silk-screened markings and engraved markings as a different versions of particular camera. And we already have camera type-5 with Lomo logo, instead of Loomp one in our list. May be you mean something else?
Regards,
Aidas |
| Vlad |
Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 10:07:05 AM
Aidas, I hate to say this, it would be very helpful if these classifications that you're kind enough to work on would have visual elements to them.. like photo close-ups on specific details on camera for each item that are different.. it's hard to visualize a lot of that stuff described in words, especially for a new collector... maybe I can help?
Vlad |
| mermoz37 |
Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 09:13:51 AM
hi Aidas ,
do you make a difference between silk printed plate and embossed (engraved) name front plate ?
there are also black lens front rings whithout "LOOMP" engraved |
| AidasCams |
Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 01:57:14 AM
Vlad,
Thanks! Your help is very appreciated!
Regards,
Aidas |
| Vlad |
Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 2:47:39 PM
Aidas,
per our conversation earlier today, I'm posting images of both my Lubitel-2's.
Serial #000189
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2509.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2510.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2513.JPG
Note the white letters for the Made in USSR.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2514.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2515.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2516.JPG
If someone sees any other oddities on this early version please do post.
LOOMP Serial # 78305-T
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2517.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2518.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2519.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2520.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2521.JPG
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_2526.JPG
Vlad |
| Vlad |
Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 10:25:46 AM
Aidas,
My LOOMP Lubitel-2 serial # is 78305-T
I also have an early Lubitel-2 - #000189. Let me know if you need to know anything about that one.
Vlad |
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