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Mark Beadle
Mark240590

United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 09 2025 :  2:46:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recently seen one of these for sale on eBay and then seen this ad afterwards. There seems to be patchy at best info about the no name stuff and wondered if I could call on the experience of collectors ?

There is rumoured to be earlier than 1963

Then 1963/64 models we all know and love

1983 model, only ever seen one.

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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Jan 09 2025 :  2:53:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The one on ebay was an 4AM model I believe, I've never seen no-name 4AM, just 4A
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Mark Beadle
Mark240590
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 09 2025 :  3:32:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But the date of 1983 would be right for that model. Which makes it even weirder. That there really is an advert out there for an 80’s Kiev but nobody really knows about it
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jan 10 2025 :  07:07:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A bit surprised that this "no name" 4AM still wears Arsenal's logo on the clip... There is nothing on the 4A, except the serial number.

I bought a 1950 Kiev II "no name" some time ago. I just needed the body. That was of course a montage Kiev II/Kiev 4A (perfectly visible on the photos)...

Amitiés. Jacques.

Edited by - Jacques M. on Jan 10 2025 09:27:48 AM
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Mark Beadle
Mark240590
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 10 2025 :  10:27:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So there is an earlier release of the no name variety. Interesting, because there is such little info out there about these.

I recently got a 1963 body. I’m happy enough to leave the no name for my collection anyway. FED & Zorki 1/2’s are where my heart is for varieties 🤣
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jan 10 2025 :  3:32:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

No, Mark. Probably I was not completely clear.
The front plates for the II/IIa and 4A are not the same. There was a 4A plate on my 1950 Kiev II.
Please, have a look at https://ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3439&SearchTerms=Kiev,no,name
So, my 1950 Kiev II was in fact a fake "no name". And there is no "no name" before the 1963/64 series. And nothing after. For what I know!

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Mark Beadle
Mark240590
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 11 2025 :  12:17:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aha! Thanks Jacques. Much appreciated. It really is a strange area of the soviet camera manufacture it’s almost all in the dark from what I can see. I find it really interesting but also a shame that there are seemingly no info sources on any of these camera 🤣
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