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               BERRY alain mermoz37 
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                       Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  07:18:21 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                       for information... I found it in old (1958 ?) Sovietskoe photo magazine.
  may be Vlad can translate kindly here ? | 
                     
                   
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               BERRY alain                 mermoz37 
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			               Vladislav Kern                 Vlad 
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                       Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  08:45:31 AM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Alain, 
  it says that in Chuntzin (?) China a mass production of a first Chinese camera started. "Camera Yantzi is analogous to Russian Smena." Then there is a technical specification and then it says that the factory is also preparing for a production of another camera of "Leica" type and a twin-reflect camera.
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               BERRY alain                 mermoz37 
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                       Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  09:08:39 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                       oh, thanks again Vlad.. may be interest for Juani information ,??... | 
                     
                    
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			               Juhani Halmeenmaki                 cedricfan 
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                       Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  1:08:27 PM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       The "Yangtze" River or Chang Jiang is the name in English and Chinese. Russsian is written like it is spoken, so foreign words may look very different. I always laugh to John Wayne written in Russian... It was made by Yangtze Government Electrical Factory in Chingqing, Sichuan. As far as I know the factory did not produce other cameras, but in Sichuan there was other factories making TLR called Hua Ying and SLR called Pedarl River.
  The other Smena-clone "Hua Shan" was however made at Xibei Optical Technical Factory in Xian, which also produced a Lubitel-clone called Changle.So sounds like they referred to that TLR? 
  Leica-type cameras were several. Yangtze River (1958) in Nanjing, FED-2 clone. Maybe the name mislead the USSR press, like Zenit made in Belarus and in Russia? Nanjing (59-61?) also in Nanjing, another clone of FED-2 Shanghai 58 (58-63?) in Shanghai, a copy of Leica-IIIb
  Hopefully not too much OT as this does include links to FSU-cameras? Always glad to give my small information about Chinese cameras, which are indeed even much more a challenge than FSU-cameras! | 
                     
                    
                       Edited by - cedricfan on Oct 01 2008  1:10:39 PM | 
                     
                    
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               Luiz Paracampo                 Luiz Paracampo 
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                       Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  2:29:55 PM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Great Juhani! 
  A perfect explanation! The name may correctly be spelled as "YANTZI" the real chinese sound of Yang-tze. This could pehaps be applied to the Zenit sound if we would write as the russians pronunciate - "ZINIT".
  Regards LP  On time: Really funny and interesting the names of people at WWII like Wiston Churchill etc. written in Russian. We discover new persons! | 
                     
                    
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