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Topic author: Vlad

Posted on: 20090709194201

I found this one for sale in Ukraine.. is this a different variation than one in catalog or just has a shutter slapped on top?

http://ibay.com.ua/item/3161638-Fotokamera__Vostok__9kh12__0335_1948g.htm

Vlad.

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Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20090709201551

Hi Vlad,

It is the same camera but with a shutter and Tessar lens added to the front.

Here are photos of my VOSTOK of which the lens and everything is original.
Serial number.....0660
Year of releas....1948
Lens..............Industar-51 4,5/210mm

Just like the one David posted on WIKI, but with red bellows which are also original to the camera.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/972009_P1013782.JPG

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/972009_P1013782.JPG

Regards, Bill

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20090709213607

Thank you Bill for posting it! Yea I figured that it was not an original configuration just wanted to make sure...
Vlad

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20090710104324

The logo is still used by Novosibirsky Pribori Zavod.. May be seen at :
http://www.telescopes.ru/product.html?cat=3
LP

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20090718173845

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
 The logo is still used by Novosibirsky Pribori Zavod...
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You may see this logo (and the real plant name) there:
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-logos.html#npz

About "Vostok" origin: I don't know who first wrote about "an aviation factory in Tashkent, Uzbekistan"... We must see "Bulletin of the RCCC (C96)" (according J.L. Princelle), but David Tomlinson... you know... :(

Of course, this camera produser was NPZ.

Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20090718200216

Since Vostok seems to have been made in the years just after World War II, I suspect that possibly the factory NPZ was making aviation instruments or parts during the war, and this is where the information came from. At that time (during the war) probably most factories that had higher technical capability were manufacturing parts for planes, tanks, weapons, and related items or accessories. So, if this is correct about NPZ, and they were making some aviation parts during the war, it might be possible (although not strictly correct) to call the factory an aviation factory ... just in the same way it might be possible to have called Arsenal or LOMO a "camera factory" even though that is just part of their factory and production.

That being said, however... Tashkent is certainly not Novosibirsk! Thanks for the information Zoom!

Can someone tell me the exact English translation for the name of the factory, NPZ ? Is it Novosibirsky Pribori Zavod?

Regards, Bill

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20090719064432

I was given the information about the Vostok being produced in Tashkent about ten years ago by a serious Moscow collector. Although I have visited Tashkent, and I found that there was a factory producing aircraft equipment, I could not get any confirmation that the Vostok was manufactured there.
The NPZ logo does not seem to be quite the same as the Vostok logo. Has anyone had confirmation from NPZ that they did manufacture the Vostok?

David(http://www.rcccuk.com)

Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20090719130613

David,
I agree that the logo is not exactly the same as the NPZ logo shown on the NPZ website, but it does look the same as the top version shown on the Zenit website, although I don't know where the Zenit website got those two variations.

I have just sent an e-mail to the NPZ factory with a photo of my Vostok, asking if they are the maker of the camera. I will post a reply if one comes to me.

Regards, Bill

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20090719142025

Can someone tell me the exact English translation for the name of the factory, NPZ ? Is it Novosibirsky Pribori Zavod?

Novosibirsk Instrument Factory
Novosibirsky=New Siberian.
LP

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20090720014424

I've been trying to think of what clues we can use to establish the origins of the Vostok. The camera itself does not seem to have any features common to any other, so there is only the logo to go on. What about the instruction manual? Does anyone have one? I have the passport, shown below. Does this give any clues? Has anyone got an NPZ passport of the 1940s/50s so that we could compare them?

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2072009_Vostok pp1.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2072009_Vostok pp2.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2072009_Vostok pp2.jpg

David(http://www.rcccuk.com)

Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20090720112010

Thanks for putting up the scans of the passport David. I did not receive anything in the way of paperwork with my camera when I bought it, so this is very interesting.

It seems that the camera is called "Universal Photo Camera" or "UFK" on the passport! But, Ican not accurately read the rest of the passport to see if the factory name is there.

Regards, Bill

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20090720173937

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RCCCUK
 I was given the information about the Vostok being produced in Tashkent about ten years ago by a serious Moscow collector.
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Sorry, this is the mistake.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RCCCUK
The NPZ logo does not seem to be quite the same as the Vostok logo.
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This is the plant No. 69 logo.
After the War this plant was known as NPZ == Novosibirskiy priborostroitel'niy zavod.

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20090720193629

Yes, this passport only has the logo but not the factory name.. just as a sidenote the FKP-2 I've posted from Detlev's archives is also made at NPZ - http://www.ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=17&ParentID=1&ContentID=1219&Item=FKP-2+Microfilm+Copier

That one DOES say NPZ above the same exact logo.

Hope that helps some.

Vlad.

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20090721030315

The evidence so far convinces me that the Vostok was indeed manufactured by NPZ. I will alter my Wiki entry accordingly. Thanks for all your help.

David

(http://www.rcccuk.com)

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20100207042551

After quite some time, the origin of the Vostok raises its head again with the entry in the book "1200 Cameras from the USSR", page 586/7. The item states that the Vostok is from an aviation factoty in the name of Ukalova, Tashkent.

David

(http://www.rcccuk.com)

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20100207172901

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RCCCUK
 After quite some time, the origin of the Vostok raises its head again with the entry in the book "1200 Cameras from the USSR", page 586/7. The item states that the Vostok is from an aviation factoty in the name of Ukalova, Tashkent.
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Because this error was published in J.P. Princelle book: page 243 (2nd edition).
Because this error was published in your Bulletin of the RCCC (C96).

Please, publish this article there...

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20100208023403

Hi Zoom,

Thanks for your interest. What you say is true, but neither J. P. Princelle or I named a factory (Zavod im Ukalova). My information originated from a collector in Moscow (unfortunately I can't remember his name - it may have been Alexander Kamynin). Do you have any information on this factory (Zavod im Ukalova) or is there any evidence that Plant 69 (NPZ) actually manufactured the Vostok?

David

(http://www.rcccuk.com)

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20100208083755

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RCCCUK
 My information originated from a collector in Moscow (unfortunately I can't remember his name - it may have been Alexander Kamynin).
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Thank you. Now it is clear, who had misled all of you.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RCCCUK
 ... is there any evidence that Plant 69 (NPZ) actually manufactured the Vostok?
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See this logo:

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2072009_Vostok%20pp1.jpg

Than see this page: http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-logos.html#npz
It is simple... ;)

P.S.
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RCCCUK
 Zavod im Ukalova<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
"Zavod imeni Chkalova" ("Çàâîä èìåíè ×êàëîâà"). Who is this Chkalov see there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Chkalov
About that plant see this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tashkent_Aviation_Production_Association

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20100209023713

Many thanks Zoom,

Your references and comments were very helpful. I think that we can all now agree on the origins of the Vostok. I was probably the last person to have doubts!

David

(http://www.rcccuk.com)

Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20100209102810

I think it would be a good idea to update our own WIKI to reflect the correct facts of origin and also to start entering serial numbers and dates of known examples. I have one and will enter the data for it later today.

Regards, Bill

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20100209134501

I have one too [:)] ready to tell you, my data as Bill suggest
alain

Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20100210231551

OK Alain, we have made a data base for Vostok so you can add your information. And anyone else who has it also!

Regards, Bill

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20100211104002

mine is 1948 but no passport , no serial number . Only lense show number: 481498 - Industar 51 (4.5/ 21 cm)
brown belows.

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20100211105537

In fact, ther is a serial number but delete for some reason....hard to see something but whith a lupe I can read "N0?7?" (may be 5).
just note : mine is slightly different ...
I have to show you pictures , soon.
Alain

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20100213050848

hello ...
here is mine [:)]

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1322010_vostok.jpg