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Topic author: Michel

Posted on: 20090922123047

Hi Vlad,

When you shall have time to loose, could you tell me what this donative text says??

Thanks again and again !

Michel.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2292009_Camera-Kiev.jpg

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20090922130631

Hello Michel,

it says L.K. Klimenko in the day of 20th anniversary of Victory (WWII) from ITR Trest Proletarskugol(some kind of coal mining organization?? )

Cheers,
Vlad

Reply author: SnuSmu

Replied on: 20090923033913

"ÈÒÐ" stands for engineering-technical staff

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090923045842

Hi Vlad and SnuSmu,

Thanks a lot for your translation.[:D]

Sincerly,
Michel.

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20090925102105

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Vlad
 Trest Proletarskugol(some kind of coal mining organization?? )
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Proletarskugol' trust in Donetsk, Ukraine (after 1975 it stay a part of the Donetskugol' coal-mining complex).
Btw., Donetsk was founded in 1869 by a Welsh businessman, John Hughes... ;)

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090926035410

Thanks, Zoom.

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20090928092246

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Vlad
 ...in the day of 20th anniversary of Victory (WWII)...
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Strictly speaking, the 20th anniversary of Victory, but not in the Second World War. In the Great Patriotic War (1941--1945).

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20090929035216

Hi zoom,
please ...what's the difference [:)] ?.
Alain

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090929040228

I should say between "Barbarossa" in june 1941 and the end of WWII ?

[:)]

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20090929103548

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mermoz37
 Hi zoom,
please ...what's the difference [:)] ?.
Alain
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WWII was a world war. It started in September 1, 1939* and ended in September 2, 1945**.
*) -- Some historians date its beginning 1938 or even 1937 (see the "Lugouqiao Incident").
**) -- Btw., since Japan has not signed with Russia the peace treaty, that, the WWII as though still proceeds till now?.. ;)

The Great Patriotic War ( http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%9E%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0 ) was a war between USSR and the incorporated forces of continental Europe, led by Nazi Germany. It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945.

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090929120558

"It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945."

That's what I said…

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090929121714

For english speaking members, see here :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_%28World_War_II%29

and there :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Patriotic_War_%28term%29

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090929122259

…and for french people

(… et pour les francophones :)[:D][:D]

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_l%27Est_%28Seconde_Guerre_mondiale%29

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20090929123040

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Michel
 "It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945."
That's what I said…
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Nope... ;) You said: "I should say between "Barbarossa" in june 1941 and the end of WWII ?"...
The end of WWII was September 2, 1945...

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090929133238

OK, Zoom.
I'm not a historian, as you are.

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20090930130258

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Michel
 I'm not a historian, as you are.
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;) Am not a historian too, we learnt this at school....

Reply author: Michel

Replied on: 20090930133456

I spent only two months at school.
So…

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20091001053437

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Michel
 I spent only two months at school.
So…
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So, you do not have an elementary education? Strange, after all you are able to read and write... 8)

Reply author: cedricfan

Replied on: 20091001093333

Getting OT but in the 70ies Finnish history teaching stopped somewhere in the early 1900. People who wrote history books forgot that we childrefn did not know that time, or the writers did not want to write about that period...
So even if I was in school for 12 years I know much less than many others!

Best regards,
Juhani

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20091001125629

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by cedricfan
 Getting OT but in the 70ies Finnish history teaching stopped somewhere in the early 1900. ...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
How much I have understood from a short studying of this problem, in Europe the world modern history is not studied. It is strange...

Reply author: cedricfan

Replied on: 20091001133612

Strange and very annoying for me who wants to know history!
And hopefully Russian history writing & telling does not get biased again like some have said might be happening. In history we must get all sides opinion to make one true story!

Best regards,
Juhani

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20091016034038

please ,
which one (Vlad ?) had some free time to translate this text ?
in advance , thanks.
Alain

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/16102009_translation.jpg

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20091016093133

"To Captain of Second Rank Stepanov S.S. on 20th anniversary of DVF (_____ Military Fleet - (not sure what first letter "D" stands for maybe someone can help)) for achieved successes in battlefield and political training. From the assistant people's commissioner of VMF(Military Sea Fleet) of USSR."

Very cool!
Vlad.

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20091016115301

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Vlad
 ".. on 20th anniversary of DVF..."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Äóíàéñêàÿ âîåííàÿ ôëîòèëèÿ -- Danubian Military Flotilla.
The same acronym had Dnieper Military Flotilla.
See this flotillas history there: http://ussrfleet.1939-45.ru/flotilii.php

P.S. But I don't understand how to correlate the "XX anniversary" (from what year? 1940? So: 1960?) and the "commissar"... "Íàðîäíûé êîìèññàðèàò ÂÌÔ ÑÑÑÐ" (People's Commissoriat of VMF of USSR) was exist from 1937 to 1946 years...

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20091016122857

Thank you!

Reply author: okynek

Replied on: 20091016152702

<quote>But I don't understand how to correlate the "XX anniversary" (from what year? 1940? So: 1960?) and the "commissar"... </quote>

Probably because ÄÂÔ(DVF) stands for Äàëüíå Âîñòî÷íûé Ôëîò - Far-East Fleet or Pacific Ocean Fleet created way before WWII.

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20091017043511

OK, thanks very much to you !
I am so gratefull as I will put your text inside the camera on my shelves to explain it to my friends.
(I still possess same item about 1940 in Baltic sea , engraved on back side camera on a silver plate.)
Alain

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20091017173601

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by okynek
Probably because ÄÂÔ(DVF) stands for Äàëüíå Âîñòî÷íûé Ôëîò - Far-East Fleet or Pacific Ocean Fleet created way before WWII.
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Nope. The Pacific Ocean Fleet (TOF) had only one name (was created in 1932 as I remember).
It was the "Dal'nevostochnij front (DVF)", but not a fleet.

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