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Topic author: Vlad
Posted on: 20110304191824
Got a great book today from 1935 called FED & Leica. One of the chapters says that Pioner was made on Geodezia factory at the same time as the first FED was developed. Implication is that Geodezia had gotten the plans from FED. They only made these cameras until 1936 (that was the plan according to book which was published in '35) and made about 1000 units at that time, because they were planning to put FAG into mass production instead.
Vlad
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20110306183552
Hello Vlad!
I have had some particular problems and was out of scene for a while. I am back now and very intrigued with such notice.
As you know, Geodesia plant was built in Moscow and was the forerunner of the Krasnogorsk Factory.
Pionir model shown was clearly made at Leningrad VOOMP of Leningrad.(as its manual clearly states Leningrad) which became part of the Progress factory a further member of LOMO Conglomerate. It is known thet at the '30s (Russia's great industializing boom) there were various VOOMP factories (Industrial Experimental Laboratories) where top products were developed and prototyped for further mass production.
A better research must be made.
Regards LP
VOOMP lenses differ in their inscripts according to cameras "VOOMP
Geodisiya Moskva" ans simply "VOOMP Opitnii Zavod" That is clear on Pegorari's book from my own edition.
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20110306190929
Hello dear Luiz!
glad to have you back!!
It seems to me that it was given to Geodezia for mass production and first examples were made in Lengingrad? I will post that page from the book momentarily, maybe I misunderstood. I think you read Russian, right Luiz?
Cheers,
Vlad
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20110306191446
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20110307192451
A very interesting information!
as we can understand the camera was developed at OGPU for further production at Geodesya! FAG - The real Zorki forerunners!
regards LP
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20110307202813
Glad there's some new information came out of this book [:)], now this one page made it worth buying. The rest of the book is unfortunately a translated from German Leica manual mixed with some Soviet propaganda on how German bourgeois capitalist society had persecuted brilliant inventor Oscar Barnack who had stayed behind the scenes and how the Leitz company was making big profits for the Leica camera instead [:)]
Cheers,
Vlad
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20110312204202
This topic gave me an idea! Make a study about Pionir and FAG.
I am gathering all information to put together and I ask eveyone who have pictures about these two cameras, to download them in order to organize a historic about them.
Kind Regards.
LP
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20110312225709
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
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Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20110316103621
Thank you Luiz, great collection of links, especially Abramov's site, it has so much information on it, it's hard to process [:)]
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