Unknown Soviet Stereo Rangefinder

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Topic author: Vlad

Posted on: 20110420223957

Anyone seen anything like that before? Seller claims Soviet manufacture from private collection. Construction looks Soviet [:)]...

http://novosib.molotok.ru/sovetskaya-dalnomernaya-stereo-kamera-35mm-redkaya-i1570231148.html

Thoughts?

Vlad

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20110420224407

Here are images in case the lot goes away

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2042011_1570231148.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2042011_1570231148_1.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2042011_1570231148_2.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2042011_1570231148_3.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2042011_1570231148_4.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2042011_1570231148_5.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2042011_1570231148_6.jpg

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20110421020953

I agree with Vlad, it does appear to be of Soviet manufacture, but what is it? I don't think it is a camera, or even a projector or viewer. It certainly has two lenses and maybe it is a stereo device of some kind. There doesn't appear to be anywhere to accommodate a lamp or film of any size. I think it maybe part of something else, with the two lenses producing a small image on the two ground-glass screens (but in the photograph, the lenses are not positioned opposite the screens). Could it be some sort of optometrists apparatus?

David.

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20110421183218

Hi David,

what about those backs? They seem like medium format camera backs... that tends me to believe this is in fact a camera..

Cheers,
Vlad

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110421212822

Hey people!
I remember several years ago to have seen such a camera at Sovietskoe Foto magazine This is really a strange 35mm stereo camera
The second picture called my attention once one can clearly see the speed control gears from Lubitel and Smena shutters. The view finder is in the bottom of the camera and is a stereo one to be seen with both eyes through the rear holes near the tripod bushes.(each side with a different one). In this camera the film chamber stays in the middle of the lens and has an odd path with two reversing prosms behind each taking lens. next I will place the controls and the schematicas of this really odd camera. The main idea was avoid transposing slides in the main strip.
If one can see another rarity with the same idea go to http://www.novacon.com.br/odditycameras/cesare.htm
Regards LP

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20110421221300

Great information as always Luiz, thank you! So do you think this is possibly some kind of GOMZ/LOMO prototype? Or a handmade job?

Thanks,
Vlad

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110421233011

Yes could be a handmade LOMO proto once the "hammer" paint is directly derivated from Luch projectors.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2142011_redkaya1.JPG

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2142011_redkaya2.JPG

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2142011_redkkaya 3.JPG

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2142011_redkkaya 4.JPG

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110421234111

According to the pictures, the rangefinder double image coincides with the right eye view.
LP

Reply author: RCCCUK

Replied on: 20110422024204

Thank you, Luiz for providing such comprehensive information. It certainly puzzled me. I had no idea that the central compartment was the film chamber. That's why I was so sure that it wasn't a camera. The important question is, 'Did you buy it, Vlad?'.

David.

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20110422071859

Luiz, wow! I am once again impressed and graceful for your detailed explaination and vast knowledge. Thank you it makes it very clear!

David, no unfortunately I did not buy it, it's a bit out of my price range - over $2000 and it only ships via private courier within Russia...

Cheers,
Vlad

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110422211248

Thank you very much Vlad Now I post the rangefinder operation

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2242011_redkkaya 5.JPG

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2242011_redkkaya 5.JPG

This oddball camera deserves a special niche in "cameras"
I shall prepare a complete technical description Where do you suggest to post? Unknown cameras?

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110422213811

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110422220901

Nifki camera using similar processes

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2242011_nifki.JPG

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110422221612

if you want to know more about some Russian Stereo Equipment
see
http://www.novacon.com.br/nablaskf1.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/skfindex.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/skfus.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/manuais.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/manuais2.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/manuais3.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/manuais4.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/sistereo11.htm

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110422222306

And amusing himself in a collection of old stereo cameras

Go to

http://www.novacon.com.br/sistereo7.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/sistereo8.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/sistereo9.htm

http://www.novacon.com.br/sistereo9b.htm

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110423175237

In order to complement this camera, I regret the fact there is no slide viewer in the lot which I believed to be part of the camera outfit.
Now we figure the picture images on the film. This camera takes 24x24mm pictures n the Colardeau sequence with the pictures turn +90º and -90º around . This trick offers two interesting characteristics: The first and more obvious is the lack of needs in transposing the pictures. the other one much more desirible is that you do not need aligning pictures. THEY WILL BE ALIGNED WHATEVER POSITION THEY SHOULD FALL IN THE VIEWER - A very confortable feature.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2342011_redskayaC.JPG

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2342011_redskayaC.JPG

and this is the schematics of the viewer

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2342011_redskaya7.JPG

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20110424202028

Luiz,

Absolutely fascinating! I still don't quite understand how you derived to the conclusion that this oddball camera uses this lens schematic, or you're talking about an analogous unit? To tell you the truth, I don't have the permission of the seller of this camera to place it into the catalog, that's why I only put it in the forum... I will try to track down seller's email in Novosibirsk, I think my friend in Moscow has it, since I've bought some stuff from her before. After I get the permission we'll create an entry.

Thanks again for all your effort, I'm just plain amazed how you derive so much info just from a picture! [:D].

Best regards,
Vlad

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20110429183842

Hello Vlad
Getting in touch with your seller please ask him about the viewer!
Best Regards
LP

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20110429231746

Sorry Luiz, I still haven't been able to get her email, my friend in Russia has not yet replied... if I get in touch with her I'll ask.

Vlad

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20110507205714

Unfortunately I was unable to get her email address, both my contact in Moscow didn't keep it... If any of the forum members know the email of Molotok seller tessajulou!ia please send me a private message. Thank you!

Vlad

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