Fed stereo on ebay

Hi guys, its been a while since I've posted on here so you've probably all forgotten me since I wasn't exactly active in the first place :)

I've kept my interest in FSU cameras alive though, and I just came a cross this on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fed-Stereo-3-8-38mm-Stereo-lens-No-88-Museum-/230625525617?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D474164010811378830

According to sovietcams, total production for this camera was ~50 units, and this one has a lens with serial number 88, which seems pretty cool, but there's no way I'm paying that much for my humble collection, so just thought I'd let you guys know in case someone was interested!
If I'm breaking any rules by posting this link or anything, sorry [:I]

Oh, and no I'm not affiliated in any way with the ebay guy :P

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It is considered that these Stemar-like lenses are well made fakes from 1990s. Lenses used: coated T-43 4/40 from Smenas. The majority of known lenses has unworkable diaphragm...

P.S. Btw, the scale of diaphragms of this lens is taken from the modern standard -- "3.8 5.6 8 11 16" (f/4 is missing ;). At that time (1930s) it should look as: "3,8 4,5 6,3 9 12,5 18".
And note #2: camera has serial number 180475. As I know, before 1941 year FED plant made ~160650 cameras. In 1946 -- not more than 1000 cameras. After the War in 1948 numbering has begun with s/n 210024 (or s/n 200001). So s/n 180475 is suspicious...

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<br />According to sovietcams, total production for this camera was ~50 units, and this one has a lens with serial number 88, which seems pretty cool...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
It is considered that these Stemar-like lenses are well made fakes from 1990s. Lenses used: coated T-43 4/40 from Smenas. The majority of known lenses has unworkable diaphragm...

P.S. Btw, the scale of diaphragms of this lens is taken from the modern standard -- "3.8 5.6 8 11 16" (f/4 is missing ;). At that time (1930s) it should look as: "3,8 4,5 6,3 9 12,5 18".
And note #2: camera has serial number 180475. As I know, before 1941 year FED plant made ~160650 cameras. In 1946 -- not more than 1000 cameras. After the War in 1948 numbering has begun with s/n 210024 (or s/n 200001). So s/n 180475 is suspicious...
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Just goes to show how much I know! lol

Hello,
Perfectly OK with you, Zoom, about this copy of Stemar.
But not exactly about the camera...

This stereo lens is proposed with a Fed 1e body. As we know, it seems that the 1e were made in Kharkov till the serial number c. 180xxx. We deduced it from the Fed 1e S # 180024, date of passport 31 july 1941, location: Kharkov.
Certainly the following ones were made in Berdsk. I own the # 180971 (an S) and the # 182912 (a regular one) which seem perfectly normal. When looking at the wiki, the serial numbers of the 1e are without hole up to 183xxx.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=98&ParentID=1&ContentID=720&Item=Fed+Berdsk+

Perhaps the last numbers were mounted in Kharkov, after the war, just before the NKAP?
Anyway, I don't understand why these stereo lenses are often mounted on 1e, which are amongst the rarest Fed...

All that only to discuss![:)]

Amitiés; Jacques.

I think I remember Bill Parkinson posting here saying that Leica Stemar stereo lens supposed to also come with the nozzle attachment to create a distance between the two lenses, the lenses on this one are too close together for a good stereo picture, so this nozzle for this "FED Stemar" was never seen, once again proving that this was a fake made for collectors' consumption..

Cheers,
Vlad.

Absolutely.
As it is, it cannot be used.

Jacques.

Also, I think if you look at the details of this fake lens, you may decide that the front plate may have been made from a FED exposure meter.

And there seem to be two versions or "editions" of this lens, if different examples are compared paying close attention to the engraving style, as well as a "black-faced" version. They are all shown in the WIKI.

The one being offered above by Boris is an example of the earlier version, as was said, probably from the late 1980s or 1990s.

Regards, Bill