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Topic author: Fred_L
Posted on: 20120604052519
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20120604112832
Congratulations for this TSVVS, Fred![:D]
All seems OK to me. Idem for the lens which is a postwar Sonnar. The same series (before 31xxxxx) was put on the first Contax IIa.
It would be interesting to know the different numbers engaved inside and on the base plate of your camera.
Anything else interesting that year at Bièvres?
Amitiés. Jacques.
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20120604183734
Fred, very nice find, congrats! Would love to see pictures from this year's Bievres if anyone who went took them!
Cheers,
Vlad
Reply author: Fred_L
Replied on: 20120607075528
Hi Aidas
I think next year we will have to meet in Bievres, and have lunch or dinner....
There was a second TSVVS to sell...
I am still negociating with the seller.....
I will give new shortly!!!
Fred
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20120607124233
Aidas! Great pictures, thank you for sharing! What did YOU get at Bievres? [:)]
Cheers,
Vlad
Reply author: AidasCams
Replied on: 20120608021342
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fred_L</i>
<br />Hi Aidas
I think next year we will have to meet in Bievres, and have lunch or dinner....
There was a second TSVVS to sell...
I am still negociating with the seller.....
I will give new shortly!!!
Fred
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Hi Fred,
with big pleasure [:)] Yes, I have seen another TSVVS at Bievres - very nice and clean camera indeed. Hoping you will get it soon [:)]
Best regards,
Aidas
Reply author: AidasCams
Replied on: 20120608022454
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Vlad</i>
<br />Aidas! Great pictures, thank you for sharing! What did YOU get at Bievres? [:)]
Cheers,
Vlad
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Hi Vlad,
I had no plans to buy something serious at Bievres, since I do possess at least 3 different versions of TSVVS camera already [:D][:D][:D] I have purchased less common to find version of Zenit-16 camera, black Narciss in great shape and Jupiter-9 lens for Zorki mount. But it was great to meet my camera dealers from Europe, to talk with Jean Loup Princelle and to feel the very special atmosphere of beeing here. I was offered few very rare soviet lenses for SLR cameras, but I'm interested in RF lenses only, you know [:)]
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/862012_zenit-16_Bievres-2012.jpg
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/862012_zenit-16_Bievres-2012.jpgBest regards,
Aidas
Reply author: AidasCams
Replied on: 20120608023038
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20120608073122
At least three different TSVVS, Aidas! These cameras are so common and trivial nowadays. Who doesn't have his own TSVVS? [:D]
To be more serious, your picture of a fake ZK Zorki lens makes me put questions about my collection: how many hidden fakes are there here? It's so simple for the early Kievs, for example...
Many thanks for the photos. I went to Bièvres in 2005, but I am too busy at the beginning of June now...
Amitiés. Jacques.
Reply author: AidasCams
Replied on: 20120608121225
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jacques M.</i>
<br />At least three different TSVVS, Aidas! These cameras are so common and trivial nowadays. Who doesn't have his own TSVVS? [:D]
To be more serious, your picture of a fake ZK Zorki lens makes me put questions about my collection: how many hidden fakes are there here? It's so simple for the early Kievs, for example...
Many thanks for the photos. I went to Bièvres in 2005, but I am too busy at the beginning of June now...
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Hi Jacques,
You are very right about hidden fakes - they are everywere around us unfortunately[V]. And this situation is growing up daily, since it's a good business for many forgers and dealers...
I have up to 80 known TSVVS cameras in my database. It's appr. 10 per cents of total production. Knowing that TSVVS camera is the top for every single collector of soviet cameras, it's not that much, what do you think? Many collectors possess at least 2 versions of the particular camera, i.e. 1949 edition and 1950 edition. I was lucky to obtain an extremely nice late version with "Mother of Pear" coverings as a 3rd TSVVS few years ago. And I'm not thinking this is too much for one fellow [:D][:D][:D]
Best regards,
Aidas
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20120608155522
Hi Aidas,
Of course I was joking about the triviality of TSVVS! [:D] This camera is really a must for any Russian camera collector. And if I could find a 1950 one (I have a 1949')... I don't even dream of a "mother of pearl"!
The question of fakes puzzles me. Two or three years ago, I think I was able to share the fakes and the genuine ones, even when difficult (Zeiss/Jupiter lenses for example). Now, I am not sure of anything: certainly forgers made improvements...
Amitiés à toi. Jacques.
Reply author: Fred_L
Replied on: 20120618112604
My second TSVVS is arrived today[:D][:D]
Pics are in "just arrived in my collection" topic...
Fred
Reply author: RCCCUK
Replied on: 20120621071248
Reply author: Fred_L
Replied on: 20120621151853
