Jupiter-6 s/n 000892

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Topic author: Kievuser

Posted on: 20071206092451

Hi,

This is for a record. I bought this lens in Moscow when I was stationed there. It has a small s/n that is smaller than M Princelle's(001490).Has anyone owned an earlier Jupiter-6?[:)]
What makes it interesting is that it has a price sticker on the leather case, a not so cheap 200 rubles! I understand 1 ruble's official rate was about 2 US dollars in the 1970's. I don't have the exact figure, but this was a very expensive lens then.

Cheers,

Zhang

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/zxk_tiger/h.jpg

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Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20071206104451

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kievuser
 
I understand 1 ruble's official rate was about 2 US dollars in the 1970's.
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Read the Note #1 on this page (sorry, in Russian):
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-prices.html#n1

Reply author: seka

Replied on: 20071206185409

Congrats !
Mine is 002331

Reply author: seka

Replied on: 20071206190517

Ho, i forgot alain's specs about the serial numbers !
It sounds like 00 in the begining for a VIP class, and 000 for the major first class VIP...
So maybe not earlier (but maybe yes, i don't know), but best build with particular controls...

Some of you there may write more precision about...

Reply author: Kievuser

Replied on: 20071207043100

Hi seka,

Are you kidding?[:0] 000 for 1st class VIP? Who is alain?

I hope it is true nevertheless.

Cheers,

Zhang

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by seka
 Ho, i forgot alain's specs about the serial numbers !
It sounds like 00 in the begining for a VIP class, and 000 for the major first class VIP...
So maybe not earlier (but maybe yes, i don't know), but best build with particular controls...

Some of you there may write more precision about...
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Reply author: Kievuser

Replied on: 20071207043805

Sibasiba. I hope you understand what I mean.

I forgot the few Russian words I have leant.I feel Russian spoken lanuage sounds very nice like French.[:D]

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Zoom
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kievuser
 
I understand 1 ruble's official rate was about 2 US dollars in the 1970's.
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Read the Note #1 on this page (sorry, in Russian):
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-prices.html#n1

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Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20071207075453

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by seka
 It sounds like 00 in the begining for a VIP class, and 000 for the major first class VIP...
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Nope.
The first zeros specify that it is an experimental or a pre-seria batch. Sometimes an experimental batches were numbered differently. The quantity of zeros has no value.

Reply author: seka

Replied on: 20071208044131

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The quantity of zeros has no value.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I guess Zoom's explanation is a more believable issue about zeros than mine... Thanks !
I'm so sad, Zhang, you're not the first VIP i would let you to be, but a simple pre-serial guy !!![B)]

However, to be serious, my Jup6 sample is really a good lens to use, very sharp, neutral rendition, clean bokeh, etc... Could not notice differences on photos taked beetween it and the original Sonnar.

Friendly yours.

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20071208055516

mine is 000158..but name is : Helios 4O-T

another is 642069 (standard Helios 40...whithout "T")

Alain.

Reply author: seka

Replied on: 20071208064109

Dear Mermoz37, Zhang talk about big brother Jupiter 6 (180/2.8) instead of Helios 40...

But if you permited, i have a question about H-40 : Do you notice a difference about coating beetween "Red T" one and mass normal product of your Helios 40 ? Thanks.

Reply author: Kievuser

Replied on: 20071208082037

Hi Alain,

I was about to show off my 000878 Helios-40, but you beat me. 000158 could be a member of the party central committe, so a VIP with no question.[:D]

My Tair-3 Grand Prix 4.5/300 has a s/n 000887. Any earler Tair-3 out there?[;)] 000887 could be one of the army generals.

Cheers,

Zhang

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mermoz37
 mine is 000158..but name is : Helios 4O-T

another is 642069 (standard Helios 40...whithout "T")

Alain.
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Reply author: Kievuser

Replied on: 20071208082747

Hi seka,

I still believe it was custom made for one of the red army generals. Who else need a lens like that?[;)]

Cheers,

Zhang

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by seka
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The quantity of zeros has no value.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I guess Zoom's explanation is a more believable issue about zeros than mine... Thanks !
I'm so sad, Zhang, you're not the first VIP i would let you to be, but a simple pre-serial guy !!![B)]

However, to be serious, my Jup6 sample is really a good lens to use, very sharp, neutral rendition, clean bokeh, etc... Could not notice differences on photos taked beetween it and the original Sonnar.

Friendly yours.
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Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20071208130214

Ok Mr Seka ..my monster J-8 is 003865...
anyway , no differences between H40 and H 40T (not red T but "Helios 40 - T"
some one told me "T" means this lense is ready for use in Antartic temperatures...(?) may be.
I know a wite painted (expensive too) TAir 300-T for such use...

My lowest sn in optics are :
Zodiak 2m 7000001 (illustrated in Pricelle's) and Zoom Rubin 002 (39mm screw !)...

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20071208131215

mermoz37
Let we see such beasts!
We are water-mouthed!

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20071208193556

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mermoz37
 some one told me "T" means this lense is ready for use in Antartic temperatures...
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Index "T" -- "for Television".
Very rare -- "Tropical variant".

See
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-indexes.html

Reply author: seka

Replied on: 20071209040014

Thanks Mermoz37, thanks Zoom...
I'm very curious to see one day your Tropical Television's Helios 40...

About Tair 3, dear Zhang, i saw in those times on Ebay serial 000839 (close to yours), and an impressive 000011 one !!!

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20071209122423

Hum, hummmmm ...TV lense ? in 39mm screw mount ? ??

may be ?
why not ???

here is this lense.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMG_3452.jpg

Reply author: seka

Replied on: 20071209191855

woooow...[:)][:D][8D][:p][B)][;)][8][8][8]

Reply author: Kievuser

Replied on: 20071210022910

Hi,

This is a very good number for Chinese. Something like"I am going to be rich".:-)