Need help with FED hood identification

Who knows where is this hood from? Which camera lens or maybe a projector? Anyone seen anything like this before? Mike Haley posted this in the facebook Vintage Camera Group but no one is yet to identify it. He believes it's a pre-war item.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/342013_fed_hood.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/342013_fed_hood.jpg

Thanks,
Vlad.

I have never seen "alive" such FED sunshade but I knew they exist once they were shown in some of the older photography books. I will try to find literature about.
I believe this sunshsde was built for early industar 26 and were included in the camera kit when sold new. Early production Zenit 4 (white ring time and diaphragm scales) used to come with a similar, but plastic sunshade, (and engraved VEGA-3).
Regards LP.

these sunshades had an heritage from old Contax sunshades holding in the outer bayonet of camera body, and very akward to use, once must be removed every time you need to change diaphragm.
LP

THIS IS A FIRST APPROACH FROM site Sovietcamera SU.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/342013_SOV ENK.png

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/342013_SOV ENK.png
more to come...

Hi Luiz,

thank you for the information. Do you think this is a postwar hood? It seems like the logo is pre-war FED logo. On the other hand I don't know how it can be for FED collapsible lens for example because it would rotate with the lens when you focus it thus making it impractical. The encyclopedia page you posted is a generic types of hoods, I don't think it's specifically related to Soviet ones.. so it's not mentioning this specific lens hood..

Thanks,
Vlad.

This is definitely pre war, I haven't seen this logo on any post war cameras or accessories.

Ok they talk about genric hoods but these are post war and there are three main reasons:
1- the rectangle must be placed in a steady position, so the lens barrel must not rotate when focusing.
2- the mount is 42mm slip-on and there were no 42/40.5 Russian lenses on pre-war time.
3- this specific hood was made for Industar 26/26M These lenses were lauched around 1956
FED 2 cameras used this same logo at least up to 1969! as well as the clamps and some other accessories this same logo were used on plastic lens caps up to 1971 72! so, post war... other logos were also used.
Regards
LP

Luiz, thank you for your analysis! Makes perfect sense!

I have received a message from Dr. Milos Mladek this afternoon, explaining what this hood is. Here is what he is saying:

"in the last days there has been a discussion on the FED sunshade in your forum. What the
participants wrote is understandeable and logic.
But things do look different when you actually have the sunshade in your hands. It is a one-
of-a-kind design all in all. The hood has a peculiar shape in profile, that can be seen on the
attached images.
What is important is that the hood is mounted by pushing it on the front of a FED f/3,5
f=5cm lens rather deeply until it sits firmly, which is due to a strip of black felt (which is also
visible on the pictures by Haley, a little worn, but still there). The strip of felt is glued-in
where the hood shows a bulging ring on the outside, and the fibres of the felt strip engage
the knurled structure of the FED lens front. In my eyes this hood (that is a copy of the first
Leica hood "FISON" in the first version 1925-1933, which has a rectangular opening on its
front that is not unlike the FED hood) is definitely made for a lens that is rotating when
focused (the FISON also had to be re-oriented as well when the distance had been set).
Why am I convinced that the the FED hood was made for a rotating lens? The FED hood
has a mark on the upper side that gives you a reference how (in what orientation) you
should push the hood on so that the rectangular opening is level. I have made photographs
that show this marking, and when assessed with a strong loupe it is clear that this marking
is old and was made before the hood was painted black. And there is no other explanation
for this marking than the need to adjust the hood so that the rectangular opening is level
once the distance has been set."

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_1 The FED hood.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_1 The FED hood.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_2 The FED hood with the orientation marking visible.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_2 The FED hood with the orientation marking visible.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_3 The FED hood in profile.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_3 The FED hood in profile.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_4 The orientation marking and the bulging ring where the felt is glued in internally.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_4 The orientation marking and the bulging ring where the felt is glued in internally.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_5 The orientation sign at 12 o'clock.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_5 The orientation sign at 12 o'clock.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_6 The internally glued-in felt strip - the internal diameter there is 36mm.JPG

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/542013_6 The internally glued-in felt strip - the internal diameter there is 36mm.JPG


Cheers,
Vlad.

Really extraordinary and surprising to me.
Undoubtly the FED engravings with the large vertical line of the "F" confirms being both of the same type of shade.
-But very clumsy in use.
Regards LP