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Topic author: Vlad

Posted on: 20130608112910

I was reading the Widelux was also developed in 1948 in Japan, and was curious whether Soviets copied Japanese or vice versa or these were two independent developments?

Cheers,
Vlad

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Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20130608140948

Panoramic cameras were long known in photography área.
here a Cylindrograph of 1895 uses the same system.
bottom right as câmara panorâmica
Cheers!
LP

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Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20130608141157

One can see also a Lehman Camera which is a SLR type
More than 100 years ago!

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20130610093935

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo</i>
<br />Panoramic cameras were long known in photography área.
here a Cylindrograph of 1895 uses the same system.
bottom right as câmara panorâmica
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Tudo foi <s> roubado </s> inventado antes de nos... ;)

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20130610112510

Zoom
Tudo foi <s>roubado</s> inventado antes de nos... ;)
-What are you meaning with such a sentence?
I can't understand
LP

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20130611032455

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo</i>
-What are you meaning with such a sentence?
I can't understand
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Sorry. In English:
Everything was <s>stolen</s> invented before us.

The original phrase ("Âñ¸ óæå óêðàäåíî äî íàñ.") is from the one famous Russian comedy film, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Y_and_Shurik%27s_Other_Adventures

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20130611091109

I liked the SZA 3 car

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SZA-M-left.jpg

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20130614191432

Thank you Luiz, I guess my question was more to the fact that these were the first "Swing-lens" cameras as far as I know, so whenever FT or Widelux are mentioned, someone always says one is the copy of the other and they are used interchangeably.. i was just wonder whether there was any truth to that..

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20130615160406

Vlad
SEE
http://www.photographyhistory.com/CS07/bellpanorama.html.
from David Silver.

the pivoting lens is not new. Archimedes 4th Centuri BC told about its possibilities and Al-Hazen 1200 year described it in his stereoscopic notations of the eye.
Several important uses were done after this principle.
There are several Picture of Rio de Janeiro taken by Marc Ferrez in panoramic mood on rigid glass plates 40 cm x 100 cm around 1880 in the museum of Instituo Moreira Salles. A curious metal French câmera wheighitng around 300 kg took those extraordinary pictures.

A curious Russian adaptation using Zorki cameras was built by Pankovitch and I posted it in our forum. Rolleiflex and Flexaret used
this same basis to construct discrete panoramas.
I developed a device to be used in conjunction with Lubitel in order to take up to 360º pictures in one take.
best regards.
LP

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20130615192137

Luiz, thanks for the link , very interesting! Baby Al Vista from 1906 with pivoting lens huh? Very cool!

Cheers,
Vlad