jupiter

hi all friends ,
does anyone know if never exist a black Jupiter 11 for Kiev (kiev II, II, IV etc...) ?

I have never met the black J-11 personally ...

i have one, but only in 39mm screw for zorki/fed.

AFAIK, it never existed.
The only 135 mm f4 in black (partially) were some early Sonnars made for the Contax I in brass body, instead of polished aluminum (Jupiters).
Since introduction of the Contax II in 1936, Zeiss made only chrome or nickel on brass lenses for those cameras. Arsenal adopted this last style but cheaper and lighter.

Ernesto

Kiev ´62 & ´66
Z1 ´55 & Z4 ´65
Some Jupiters too...

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You mean KMZ? ;)
http://www.zenitcamera.com/archive/lenses/jupiter-11.html

As I know for Kiev 2, 3, 4 only "white" J11 was built.
Black J11 may exist to fit Kiev 5 prototype. It was used for camera initial demonstration/approval/exhibition. But this is not confirmed. As I know no true-black J11 for Kiev RF was found so far.
As well as not found and most likely not exist, "white" J11 for Kiev 10,15,17,19,20.
But just bacause Alain the one who ask this question he may be on something [;)] and I may be wrong.

no...i am not on something ...i just try to make a complete black lenses set for Kiev as i did whith zorki...[^]