Leica copies at Westlicht

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Topic author: rkaipov

Posted on: 20160609075828

Dear Experts,

can you say anything about the strange Zorki at http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=4 , click on Leica copies ?

Thank you

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Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20160609083743

Our rule is rather not to say anything when a camera is in auction, not to interfere...
That said, as it is written, it's a Leica copy made from Russian parts... It's not the first, not the worst I've ever seen!

Amitiés. Jacqueq.

Reply author: Lenny

Replied on: 20160609085233

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rkaipov
 
can you say anything about the strange Zorki
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That's just a phantasy, special, but not so special to pay so much money for it.
A very usual lens from 1954.
A Zorki/Fed mix with Zorki-C wind knob, Fed frame counter, Fed rewind clutch lever, Fed Vulcanite, Zorki bottom plate and so on and on.
It's amazing how Westlicht describes a fake, "almost unkown from 1957".

Reply author: Francesco

Replied on: 20160609094314

In the Space cameras section there is a wonderfull Leningrad Space with MIR-1 lens.

Reply author: AlexanderK

Replied on: 20160609151652

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jacques M.
 
Our rule is rather not to say anything when a camera is in auction, not to interfere...
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Jacques,
you are right,it is no fair to discuss it before the end of auction, but if it is obviously a "fantasy item" it is fair to point it.

Regards, Alexander

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20160610030441

Yes, Alexander.
It's why I answered the question, too. I really wonder how this famous seller can propose such a phantasy camera...

Jacques.

Reply author: Fred_L

Replied on: 20160611083911

Hi!
Are you talking about lot 277?
Fred

Reply author: Lenny

Replied on: 20160611092113

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fred_L
 Hi!
Are you talking about lot 277?
Fred
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Yes sure Fred, lot 277, Zorki Standard.

Reply author: Fred_L

Replied on: 20160611102247

Thank you Lenny

I got it [8D][8D][8D]

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20160611112720

Happy for you, Fred![:)]

Jacques.

Reply author: Fred_L

Replied on: 20160611113840

Thank you Jacques
Have nice we
Fred

Reply author: Alfa2

Replied on: 20160612021136

For myself the best is Left Hand Leica Ia (made from FED). [:)]
Many parts are "left handed", frame counter goes to the opposite side so scale is reversed, arrows on both knobs shows the opposite direction etc.

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20160612031433

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Alfa2
 For myself the best is Left Hand Leica Ia (made from FED). [:)]
Many parts are "left handed", frame counter goes to the opposite side so scale is reversed, arrows on both knobs shows the opposite direction etc.
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Yes. I remember my surprise when I saw it on the Princelle for the first time. Just in imagination, the mechanism inside... What a work!

Reply author: Fred_L

Replied on: 20160612033640

There were a lot of desirable cameras...
TSVVS and so on...
About left hand copy, I bid on this camera but auction increased too much quickly for me..[:D][:D][:D]
Not a Leica copy, but you surrely noticed the quality of the Sport? (#431)
Fred

Reply author: AlexanderK

Replied on: 20160612075148

Fred,
this Sport seems to be in excellent condition, but it was unfortunately repainted in blue (may be also refurbished). The leather covering is not original.
Such new recovering on WestLicht we have seen already on Gelveta some years ago.

Regards, Alexander

Reply author: Fred_L

Replied on: 20160613105257

Alexander,
Thank you for your message
The camera seems to be black and covering seems to be dark blue on my screen. Do you mean camera body is also dark blue?
Fred

Reply author: Lenny

Replied on: 20160613111001

One good thing about Westlicht, the photos from previous auctions can still be seen, you only need to find the lots and auctions.

Reply author: AlexanderK

Replied on: 20160613114742

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fred_L
 
The camera seems to be black and covering seems to be dark blue on my screen. Do you mean camera body is also dark blue?
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Fred,
I mean the covering. I have also one in dark green (s/n 16119). It looks fascinating, but... Before we don't find any papers to prove existence of such cameras, they are only painted ones [:D].

Regards, Alexander

Reply author: Fred_L

Replied on: 20160613121706

Alexander,
Thank you very much..
I did not notice at first the coverring was blue!!!!! Due maybe to my age.........[8D][8D][8D]
But I was really surprised about quality of the body. I have several other Sport in my collection and none in such a shape.....
Low serial number too....

Fred