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Topic author: Matt Bulthouse
Posted on: 20160913133208
Reply author: jed
Replied on: 20160915144517
Hi,
Quite interesting - I own two 1952 Kiev mount J11 : one is like yours, the other one has the tinted coating
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20160915150613
I own a 1951 LTM Jup 11, and it doesn't have the Zeiss number at the back.
But nothing is impossible. Does yours have it?
Jacques.
Reply author: jed
Replied on: 20160915153144
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20160915161700
It's not as simple, as you know!
One cannot know, by the tint of the front lens, if there is a Zeiss number at the back...
In fact, there was a sort of "lego" party at the end of WW2 with the different parts of Sonnars and Biogons: barrels, lenses and mounts. And I (personally) think that the 4/13,5 Sonnars parts were probably the first to be completely used. We find "official" Zeiss parts up to 1952 on Jup 12, for example.
But it's a complex question which cannot be explored in two sentences.
As I'm a player, I would say that if there is a Zeiss number, it would be on the left lens. But I must be wrong too!
Now, tell me, please, Jed!
Amitiés. Jacques.
Reply author: Matt Bulthouse
Replied on: 20160916165035
How do we find the Zeiss#?
Reply author: Matt Bulthouse
Replied on: 20160916165319
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<br />Hi,
Quite interesting - I own two 1952 Kiev mount J11 : one is like yours, the other one has the tinted coating
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Very nice collection Jed!
I love Russian lenses. They just add a certain something to photography.
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20160917082732
How we can find the Zeiss number, if there is one?
You try to unscrew the barrel by the front of the lens. At the rear end of the barrel, you (can) have a Zeiss number.
But don't force. I have three of these lenses, in LTM version. But only one can be unscrewed. The others were certainly sticked to keep good regulatings.
I take two or three picts and I post them.
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20160917085257
Note that it's a LTM Sonnar (my 1951 Jup 11 has externally exactly the same features).
I suppose that bayonet mounts can be dismounted in the same way. But they can be sticked too...
Jacques.
Reply author: Matt Bulthouse
Replied on: 20160917111747
I will check on this later. Thank you!
Reply author: jed
Replied on: 20160918022418
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20160918055429
So, no official Zeiss number on the rear, Jean ? Only hand written inscriptions? The fact that they are the same is interesting: they were probably made by the same person...
Reply author: Matt Bulthouse
Replied on: 20160920191459
Where is it that I look for these numbers? I looked after I took the lens block out...where is it?
Reply author: Jacques M.
Replied on: 20160921051553
Hi Matt,
If you don't find such a number on the rear part of the lens, that means that this part was not made by Zeiss.
Jacques.
