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Topic author: kds315

Posted on: 20190113044700

Came to me by coincidence when checking out a fleamarket, had that GOI in the back of my head somehow and bought it as it was a good price, and f2.8/200mm is very nice to use focal length for me (like my CZJ 2.8/200mm Sonnar).

And now I find out that it seems to be a rather rare prototype lens a friend of mine and member here told me, which hasn't been made often, computed in 1975 and made by GOI in St. Petersburg, the Russian State Optical Institute. Mine is from 1991.

It has Pentax-K bajonet mount and supposedly a 7e/6g lens design (I found on a russian site) - but my finding is, that it actually is a 8e/5g design, confirmed by 10 strong reflections I see (equals 5 lens groups).

My lens looks like this:

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Telegoir_f28_200mm_side_1.jpg



It has quite a nice modern multicoating (my lens is made 1991):

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Telegoir_f28_200mm_front_1.jpg



Here now a size and look comparision with the Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar electric f2.8 200mm, to show how compact it is:

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_CZJ_Sonnar_f28_200mm_vs_Telegoir_f28_200mm_1.jpg


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Reply author: kds315

Replied on: 20190113045307

<b>About the Telegoir 2.8/200 lens design:</b>

I carefully re-checked the reflections, it is 10 reflections. Also was digging deeper in russian sources and found
the lens design, it is <b>8e/5g </b>which actually confirms 10 strong reflections (5 groups = 10 surfaces to air)

It looks like this (Oberon 2.8/200mm has same optics):

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Oberon_shema_1.jpg



So in comparison to the CZJ Sonnar it seems the design is some advanced / modified form of it:

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Sonnar_vs_Telegoir_scheme1_1.jpg



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Reply author: kds315

Replied on: 20190113045541

Well, I took a few shots, was after rain, already getting dark. All shot at f2.8

#1

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_P2520653_c_1.jpg



#2

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_P2520670a_c_1.jpg



#3

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_P2520718_c_1.jpg



#4

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_P2520665a_c_1.jpg



#5

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_P2520740_c_1.jpg



#6

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_P2520674_c_1.jpg



#7

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_P2520579_c_1.jpg



Quite sharp it is, snappy and very smooth focusing, auto aperture, high contrast images, CA visible but manageable.

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Reply author: kds315

Replied on: 20190113045628

Here now a side-a-side comparision with the Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar electric f2.8/200mm.
[if you are able to view crosseye stereo, it is very easy to compare images..].

<b>Comparison GOI Telegoir (left) vs CZJ Sonnar 200mm (right):</b>

#1

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Telegoir_vs_Sonnar_200mm_1a_c_1.jpg



#2

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Telegoir_vs_Sonnar_200mm_12a_c_1.jpg



#3

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Telegoir_vs_Sonnar_200mm_4a_c_1.jpg



#4

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Telegoir_vs_Sonnar_200mm_8a_c_1.jpg



#5

http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20191/455_Telegoir_vs_Sonnar_200mm_10a_c_1.jpg



I conclude the <b>Telegoir basically is an advanced copy of the Sonnar</b>, very sharp already wide open (all tests were done at f2.8 ),
very creamy bokeh, excellent contrast and color (Telegoir is a little warmer), CA nearly as good as the
Sonnar (just a little more cyan OOF). Focal lengths are nearly identical. Both have a 7-blade iris.


<b>BUT </b>- Weight: Telegoir 0.750 kilograms - Sonnar 1.130 kilograms (51% more).
Closest focus: Telegoir 1.5 meters - Sonnar 2.2 meters.

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Reply author: kds315

Replied on: 20190113051122

My friend Dr Milos Mladek also has this lens, our serial numbers is 10 apart (both from 1991). I only know of two other such lenses from previous Westlicht auctions, that totals only four (4) such lenses currently known.

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Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20190113085455

Hi Klaus!

Many thanks for sharing. Your photos are absolutely splendid!
I did not know this lens which sems better (and more usable)than the Sonnar, by your comparison.
Certainly by the diagrams, it seems an improvement of the Sonnar.
Congrats for this find!

Amitiés. Jacques.

Reply author: kds315

Replied on: 20190113123946

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jacques M.</i>
<br />Hi Klaus!

Many thanks for sharing. Your photos are absolutely splendid!
I did not know this lens which sems better (and more usable)than the Sonnar, by your comparison.
Certainly by the diagrams, it seems an improvement of the Sonnar.
Congrats for this find!

Amitiés. Jacques.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Most welcome Jacques! A very surprising find and quite amazing, unexpected good results!

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Reply author: kds315

Replied on: 20190113132531

Had a little late sunshine recently.... all f2.8

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4891/45923460124_45570d45aa_o.jpg



https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7831/39683164943_13bb07fda2_o.jpg



https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7856/39683165263_302f0ed44b_o.jpg



(shot through tree branches ...)

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Reply author: kds315

Replied on: 20190117044555

Here now a few images shot in my famous park, also at f2.8 on GH4

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4899/31809574497_b1f58402b6_o.jpg



https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4854/32875833398_519a58584a_o.jpg



https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7845/46751244831_f3410a33e3_o.jpg



https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7849/46751244971_8e19b90d10_o.jpg



https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4819/31809574097_07bffabd3b_o.jpg



https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7853/46698372822_2040d6e497_o.jpg



https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4839/46698373072_e16f9d729d_o.jpg



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