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Topic author: liukai

Posted on: 20250101044553

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Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20250106140138

Just one thing to note: correct transliteration of this abbreviation is AYaKS.

Reply author: Detlev

Replied on: 20250107140306

I suppose Ajax is no abbreviation, but a code name. Stasi called the camera "Ammer", the official name is F 21

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Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20250111160343

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Detlev</i>
<br />I suppose Ajax is no abbreviation, but a code name.
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Sorry, but it's an abbreviation. No one was interested in what who was the hero of the Trojan War...
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-logos.html#n6
(The name "UFA" has nothing to do with the city of the same name, but is an abbreviation and presumably stands for: Universal Photo Apparat (U is possibly: "controlled"). "AYaKS" is also an abbreviation: the initials of the prototype developer (A.Ya. — the decoding is unknown), Camera Special.)

Reply author: Detlev

Replied on: 20250112041324

The UFA meaning is certain because of the German translation of the Stasi, Ajax is an assumption. What about Neylon, Neozit etc?

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Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20250112131101

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Detlev</i>
<br />The UFA meaning is certain because of the German translation of the Stasi, Ajax is an assumption. What about Neylon, Neozit etc?
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What does the Stasi have to do with it? The above document only confirms it. I have other sources.
Other names are conditional.
Projects were often given completely wonderful, meaningless names. Such names are still given to military projects. For example: Oreshnik (medium-range ballistic missile with separable kinetic warheads).

Reply author: Detlev

Replied on: 20250112132221

The Stasi later manufactured the camera and used the translated Russian name "Universal Fotoapparat"
Please publish your other sources
Detlev

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20250112155127

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Detlev</i>
Please publish your other sources
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Personal memories of people involved in the production of these cameras.

Reply author: Detlev

Replied on: 20250113012323

Where have the cameras been produced? And who was A Ja?

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20250113044733

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Detlev</i>
<br />Where have the cameras been produced? And who was A Ja?
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Krasnogorskiy mekhanicheskiy zavod, No. 393.
It is known for sure that these are initials (first name, last name), but they could not remember exactly. Old men...

Reply author: Detlev

Replied on: 20250114043642

I suppose UFA was the first camera developed and produced by OOT (1945), Ajax 8 the second (1948). So "A Ya" must have been a member of OOT.

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20250114124503

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Detlev</i>
<br />I suppose UFA was the first camera developed and produced by OOT (1945), Ajax 8 the second (1948). So "A Ya" must have been a member of OOT.
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Yes, that's exactly right.