SMENA in 1962

Kind day, colleague!
What do you think about manufacturing SMENA in 1962?
http://www.fotoua.com/1cameratip.php?seek2=160&seek1=140&usl=&usl1=&seek3=5&rd=&st=
The general opinion, that manufacturing of cameras was finished in 1960.
dmzi

Dmzi,

Well they made all Smenas of that type (Smena-1,2,3,4) in parallel between 52 and 61 (according to JLP) or so... wouldn't surprise me they went another year making this one, it's not such a stretch...

Все модели (Смена 1,2,3,4) были выпущенны одновременно до 61 года официально (по Принцелю) поэтому это меня совсем не удивляет что они еще выпускали их в 62ом.. это всего лишь один год позже.. почему бы и нет?

Vlad

Äîáðûé äåíü, Vlad!
Ñïàñèáî çà îòâåò íà ðóññêîì, âèäèìî ìîé àíãëèéñêèé Âàñ øîêèðîâàë[:D]
Princelle äîïóñêàåò ñëèøêîì ìíîãî íåòî÷íîñòåé, ÷òîáû åãî öèòèðîâàòü. ß ïðåäïî÷èòàþ Ýíöèêëîïåäèþ "Ôîòî- êèíî- òåõíèêà" èçä. "Ñîâ.ýíöèêëîïåäèÿ", Ìîñêâà, 1981 ã.  íåé: äî 1961 ã. âûïóñêàëàñü òîëüêî "Ñìåíà-2", âñå îñòàëüíûå áûëè çàêîí÷åíû â 1960 ã. À â 1962 ã. ÃÎÌÇ óæå íå òîëüêî íà÷èíàë, à çàêàí÷èâàë "Ñìåíà-5" è âòîðîé ãîä âûïóñêàë "Ñìåíà-6", ò.å. ñîâåðøåííî èíûå êîðïóñà è îáúåêòèâû.
Âïðî÷åì, ïî Princelle - äî 1961 ã. âûïóñêàëàñü "Ñìåíà-4". Îñòàëäüíûå çàêîí÷èëèñü òàêæå â 1960 ã.
Õîòÿ, êîíå÷íî, âñå ýòî ìåëî÷ü, êàê è âñå îñòàëüíûå ìåëêèå äåòàëè ïðîèçâîäñòâà ñîâåòñêèõ àïïàðàòîâ, âêëþ÷àÿ ïðèñóòñòâèå-îòñóòñòâèå âèíòèêà, ãàå÷êè, øèëüäèêà è ò.ï.[:D] Ïðîñòî ìíå áûëî èíòåðåñíî, êîãäà óâèäåë, õîòåë îáðàòèòü âíèìàíèå êîëëåã íà èçìåíåíèå ãîäà îêîí÷àíèÿ ïðîèçâîäñòâà "Ñìåíà".
Ñ èñêðåííèì óâàæåíèåì êî âñåì òðóæåííèêàì ôîòîôðîíòà,
dmzi

Good afternoon, Vlad!
Thank you for your response to a Russian, probably my English has shocked you.
Princelle has too many inaccuracies to quote it. I prefer Encyclopedia "photo-film technology ed. "Sov.entsiklopediya", Moscow, 1981 It: until 1961, produced only "Smena-2", all the rest were finished in 1960 and in 1962 GOMZ no longer just beginning, and ending with "Smena- 5 and the second year produced "Smena-6", ie Packaging and different lenses.
However, on Princelle - until 1961, produced "Smena-4". Others also ended in 1960
Although, of course, all this trifle, like all other small parts production Soviet hardware, including presence-absence of screws, nuts, ESO, etc. Just interesting to me was when I saw, wanted to draw attention to colleagues at changing the year end production of "Smena".
With sincere respect to all comrades of foto-front,
dmzi

Hi dmzi!

Just a theory, but on the passport pictures on Alex's site it says "release date" not "manufactured date", so even though it's a technicality, it may mean that it was produced in 1961 but released in 1962. By the way I've translated and edited your post to add that translation as a courtesy to other non-Russian speaking members. Your Enlgish is great, it's just I decided to extend a courtesy to a member from Russia, we don't have many of those here.. [:)] If it's possible also run your Russian replies through google translation and post them after your Russian one for non-Russian speaking members. THanks!

Çäðàâñòâóéòå dmzi!
Ýòî òîëüêî òåîðèÿ íî ïàñïîðò êîòîðûé íàõîäèòñÿ íà òîé ññûëêå íà ñàéòå Àëåêñà ïîêàçûâàåò äàòó âûïóñêà êàê 62-é ãîä, íî ÿ íå ïîäîçðåâàþ ÷òî äàòà âûïóñêà ýòî íå òîæå ñàìîå ÷òî äàòà èçãîòîâëåíèÿ.. òî åñòü îíè èõ ìîãëè åùå ãîä íàçàë èçãîòîâèòü, íî âûïóñòèëè â 62-îì.. íåáîëüøîå òàêîÿ òåõíè÷åñêîå ðàçëè÷èå... [:)]. ß òàê ïîíÿë ÷òî âû èç Ðîññèè ïîýòîìó âû íàø ïåðâûé ãîñòü íà ôîðóìå îòòóäà, íó ÿ è ðåùèë èç óâàæåíèÿ íà ðóññêîì òîæå ïèñàòü. [:)] Åñëè ìîæíî òî ìîæåòå ïîæàëóéñòà îòâå÷àòü íà ðóññêîì, òîëüêî ïðîïóñòèòå âàø îòâåò ÷åðåç ïåðåâîä÷èê íà Google è ïðîñòî ñêîïèðóòå ñþäà, òàê êàê 70% íà ðóññêîì çäåñü ê ñîæàëåíèþ íå ãîâîðèò.. Ñïàñèáî!

Vlad

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<br />Well they made all Smenas of that type (Smena-1,2,3,4) in parallel between 52 and 61...
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For me it is more interesting what was happened in 1951...
See an article from 1950 (in Russian): http://www.zenitcamera.com/archive/history/our-tasks-in-1951.html
;)

Zoom,

Now that is truly interesting! Wow! Smena was originally developed at GOI correct? And was supposed to be assigned to a production facility, it is very interesting that GOMZ started making it, but again GOMZ had a lot of experience with bakelite and plastic, where KMZ stuff is mostly metal... can it possibly be if it is this GOMZ Smena mentioned in the article maybe that was the reason it went to GOMZ? Because of the availability of manufacturing capability?

Vlad

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Vlad</i>
<br />Smena was originally developed at GOI correct?
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Why do you think so?..

I just assumed so because in Princelle there are a lot of Smenas under GOI section.... but now I see it's mostly stereo Smenas.. That's why I had a question mark, I was not sure... [:)]

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<br />I just assumed so because in Princelle...
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Monsieur Princelle wrote about the Smena designer -- a certain I. Shapiro (without any source mention -- strange for a historian)... Who was this I. Shapiro -- I don't know. But to all appearances he worked in GOMZ, not in GOI.