Odd Gorizont on Molotok

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Topic author: Vlad

Posted on: 20081112220243

Did you guys see this one? What is this Author Certificate # on the bottom?? Seems like some kind of demo version or something like that...

http://www.molotok.ru/item481609572_gorizont_redkij_variant_panoramnogo_fotoapparata.html

Vlad.

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Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20081113041505

I possess one too and saw some other.. I have no explanations for "author certificate"....which one can tell us something about ?

Reply author: AidasCams

Replied on: 20081113061721

Hi Vlad,

we already had similar discussion in our previous Topic:

http://www.ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=685&SearchTerms=horizont

Best Regards,
Aidas

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20081113092006

I see, thanks Aidas! Somehow I've missed that post! I only remember Bill and I discussing it at some point in the past, but I don't think we came to any meaningful conclusion, only guesses... You may be right about the export markets with requirements, isn't Germany one of them? But I think it went under Revue in Germany didn't it?

Vlad.

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20081113092151

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Vlad
 What is this Author Certificate # on the bottom??
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Equal to the "Patent numbers".

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20081113092425

Thanks Zoom, I do understand what it's for, I guess my question was why it's on the bottom [:)].. and I think Aidas provided a very good educated guess here, but what do you know about it, if anything?

Thanks,
Vlad.

Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20081113112921

I suspect that the patent number was engraved on examples that were going to be displayed at trade shows in Germany or the West.

Regards, Bill

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20081113114024

Actually I thought the same Bill, but common nature of these - Aidas and Alain both have these tells me that these may be some kind of small export production batch rather than one-offs for trade shows...

Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20081113175118

Besides Aidas and Alain each having one, and the one on Molotok, that only makes about three ... so that's not making them very common, and I have never seen others besides the one on Molotok. I think they are rare. Maybe ten or so were made for a Photokina.

Does anyone else have one? I have seen many export and non-export type Horizont but never with these numbers.

Regards, Bill

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20081113232816

Bill, I think 3 known in comparison to the unknown world-wide is a lot... [:D]..

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20081114024259

I saw , minimum 2 others in Prag a long time ago (6 years)

Reply author: AidasCams

Replied on: 20081114053654

Hi,

I would be very happy to have one of 10 existing demanstrating cameras [:)], but during my collecting activity I have met at least 5-7 of them ... or even more. It could be limited edition with 200-300 cameras in total, why not?

Best Regards,
Aidas

Reply author: mermoz37

Replied on: 20081114064947

yes...Why not ?